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[razorlab]

Fair point, I will add S58 tuning info to my own then. Will be useful to about 100x more people than this thread.

Lol, you get so hurt when you get called out, and yes, please keep the "my first toony thing" boost controller BS out of this thread.

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[ColonelAdama]

Lol, you get so hurt when you get called out, and yes, please keep the "my first toony thing" boost controller BS out of this thread.

I'll check back tomorrow and see if you've got any more seeth to edit to this post. You are so pressed over nothing dude lol, we are both trying to provide tuning info to the community.

For the record, I fully understand tuning fuel and timing tables in MHD and have done so on several cars with BEFs. We literally have the fastest stock turbo MT on JB4/BEF, go ahead and beat it.

 

[razorlab]

For the record, I fully understand tuning fuel and timing tables in MHD and have done so on several cars with BEFs. We literally have the fastest stock turbo MT on JB4/BEF, go ahead and beat it.

I have zero interest in dick measuring and even less so car bowling, and honestly, it's not coming across how you think it might be coming across.

P.S. I have the fastest time logged in my house to open a can of tuna and make a sandwich. (Nobody fking cares)

 

[Mothman]

I appreciate this thread a lot. I am tuning with MHD and your page helped me overcome one of the limits I was fighting. While MHD terms aren't as great as what BM3 has defined, your description on component protection helped. Thank You!

 

[razorlab]

I appreciate this thread a lot. I am tuning with MHD and your page helped me overcome one of the limits I was fighting. While MHD terms aren't as great as what BM3 has defined, your description on component protection helped. Thank You!

I've been defining a lot of new tables for MHD. What is your BIN #?

 

[Mothman]

I've been defining a lot of new tables for MHD. What is your BIN #?

00005D553C6E05. EARLY BIN. My build date was mid-late 2019. Didn't even need a bench unlock lol. Please don't feel obligated to unless you really want to. I was able to use your posts to help me and that alone has been very helpful.

 

[ColonelAdama]

Figured I'd keep it in the appropriate thread. I didn't really have throttle closure issues on my base map except at lower pedal input. Also I did try the strategy of base < actual, just didn't quite pull out enough.

https://datazap.me/u/coloneladama/a...data=2-16-26-28-37-39-40-41&solo=19&zoom=3-24

See rolling into the pedal sort of has the PID all over the place. I had done the base table sort of like the example you had sent me, where wgdc is 100% up to a certain boost. I am wondering if that should be done differently now. Since its is overboosting at partial pedal boost targets.

 

[razorlab]

Yea you could also add more boost target breakpoints in the single digits. Pid should be able to keep up with most of this.

This is one of the drawbacks of moving away from the OEM airflow model.

There are a bunch of partial throttle tables for boost control. I'm not 100% if MHD+ skips all those too, but might be worth a try.

 

[ColonelAdama]

Yea you could also add more boost target breakpoints in the single digits. Pid should be able to keep up with most of this.

This is one of the drawbacks of moving away from the OEM airflow model.

There are a bunch of partial throttle tables for boost control. I'm not 100% if MHD+ skips all those too, but might be worth a try.

So no harm in dropping the base values for 6 psi and below and just leaning more on the PID?

 

[razorlab]

So no harm in dropping the base values for 6 psi and below and just leaning more on the PID?

I wouldn't think so. Try it out. You are already putting more thoughtfulness in tuning than most tuners.

 

[i3igpete]

I heard turning down the sensitivity on the knock sensors really cleans up the ignition timing

 

[ColonelAdama]

I heard turning down the sensitivity on the knock sensors really cleans up the ignition timing

ironically thats what I'm wondering if my knock sensor is just noisy on the shift?

With low boost, with e40, and no overboost/overload/tq limit into the next gear, i still got corrections
https://datazap.me/u/coloneladama/a...2-4-9-16-28-30-31-32-33-34-35-37-44&solo=9-19

I thought the timing pull was related to overboost on OTS but I guess not.


almost the same shift again and no corrections
https://datazap.me/u/coloneladama/a...ta=2-4-9-16-28-30-31-32-33-34-35-37&solo=9-19

only thing I see is that AFR goes a bit leaner on the one with corrections, but like fuel is cut either way so is there really a difference?

 

[i3igpete]

Seems like the Correction is entirely after you start putting your right foot down. I havent really looked in detail yet, is there a fueling transients table to see if you can do anything about lean tip-in.

 

[ColonelAdama]

Seems like the Correction is entirely after you start putting your right foot down. I havent really looked in detail yet, is there a fueling transients table to see if you can do anything about lean tip-in.

Shoup told me something about keeping fueling closed loop mid shift but I can't find the table.

 

[razorlab]

ironically thats what I'm wondering if my knock sensor is just noisy on the shift?

With low boost, with e40, and no overboost/overload/tq limit into the next gear, i still got corrections
https://datazap.me/u/coloneladama/a...2-4-9-16-28-30-31-32-33-34-35-37-44&solo=9-19

I thought the timing pull was related to overboost on OTS but I guess not.


almost the same shift again and no corrections
https://datazap.me/u/coloneladama/a...ta=2-4-9-16-28-30-31-32-33-34-35-37&solo=9-19

only thing I see is that AFR goes a bit leaner on the one with corrections, but like fuel is cut either way so is there really a difference?

That might be more from the dynamic corrections and not actual knock. There are MT-centric tables for some of this that are more sensitive than the AT tables.

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