Production Toyota Supra will be revealed in the first half of 2019 at Detroit!

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R&T is saying it will start production next year.

2019 Toyota Supra: What We Know So Far

Toyota has a new rear-drive sports car coming, with help from BMW. Here's what we know, and what we think we know, about it.


Toyota reentered the rear-wheel drive sports car game with the 86 (née Scion FR-S) back in 2012, and now it's got something bigger in the works. Something that could be a successor to the mighty Supra, one of Toyota's most beloved cars of all time. There's a lot we know about this car and there's a lot we've heard, so we're compiling all of it here, just for you.

We don't know for sure whether this car will wear the Supra badge, but for simplicity's sake, that's how we're going to refer to it for now. Who doesn't want a new Supra?

It Might Not Wear a Toyota Badge
Speaking to Motor1 UK, Shigeki Tomoyama, the president of Toyota's Gazoo Racing division implied that the Supra might not wear Toyota badging. Instead, according to Tomoyama, it will be badged as a Gazoo.

Tomoyama also made some big promises about the Supra's sports-car credentials.

"The Supra will be a pure sports car," he told Motor1 UK. "The previous Supra had a straight six engine, twin turbochargers and rear-wheel drive. These were important elements."

Tomoyama, who owns a 600-hp MkIV Supra, also said that Toyota boss Akio Toyoda had a hand in the car's development, saying it needed a "more mobile" rear axle. The Supra will also have 50:50 weight distribution, and Toyota is already developing aftermarket parts.

It'll Be Revealed Soon, At Least In Concept Form
Originally, we heard the Supra would make its debut as a concept at Octobers's Tokyo Motor Show alongside a version of the rear-drive S-FR concept. Sadly, that didn't happen. And in case you haven't heard, the L.A. Auto Show was last week—no Supra there either. The Detroit Auto Show is coming up next month, and according to one report, you shouldn't get your hopes up.

When asked if the Supra was coming to Detroit, Toyota Group vice president Jack Hollis told Motortrend specifications are still being finalized for the car, and that it is "not at production levels yet." As with the above report, Hollis says the company still has yet to decide on a name for the car.

In any case, we'll find out what Toyota has in store soon.

It's Being Co-Developed With BMW
The Supra will be the result of a BMW-Toyota collaboration first announced in 2012. The two companies are working together on engines and lithium-ion batteries, and most interestingly, a new rear-wheel drive platform.

We've already seen the concept form of another car set to ride on this platform—the next BMW Z4 roadster, which debuted at Pebble Beach this summer and promises to be a legitimately excellent sports car. BMW is reportedly targeting a sub-3200-lb curb weight for the Z4, which is good news for the Supra said to share its platform. We think the Supra might be available as a hardtop only, since we haven't seen spy shots of any soft-top prototypes testing, so it's possible the Supra might be even lighter.

It Starts Production in 2018
In May, we reported that the Supra would hit production next year, and that it would be assembled in Austria by contract manufacturer Magna Steyr, which is best known as the company that builds the Mercedes-Benz G-Wagen.
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More news on the upcoming, fifth-gen Supra from Geneva...

The new Toyota Supra is coming – it’ll be unveiled at the Detroit Show in January 2019. Meanwhile we have this track-look concept. Its body panels are production reality. Just take off the rear wing, flicks, splitter and sports-hall-sized diffuser.

The Supra is a joint project with BMW, but, “they are not the same kind of car,” the Supra’s project chief Tetsuya Tada tells Top Gear. “We will continue the heritage of the Supra, a pure sports car. There are fewer common elements than you would imagine. It’s not like the GT86 and Subaru.”

And Tada would know. He led the GT86 project too, and he ensured that was a pure sports car. Remember, the new Z4 will be a gentler soft-top. “The exterior and interior design [of the Supra] is Toyota.” In other words, very different from the BMW, which we’ve also seen in concept form.

Tada calls the Supra the GT86’s “elder brother”. But it isn’t bigger than the GT86, as it’s a pure two-seater.

What about the mechanicals? “I spoke to Supra fans. The six-cylinder engine, turbos, and front-engine-rear-drive layout are vital.” BMW does those things doesn’t it? “Yes, so we collaborated.”

Which means, and Tada confirms this, the Supra won’t use the Lexus V8. A BMW six then? “Few car companies have straight-six engines,” he replies. “Toyota did but it doesn’t any longer.” Toyota’s European R&D head Gerald Killmans later confirms that it’s a recalibrated version of the BMW engine. We suspect the M3’s twin-turbo. That means 450bhp ballpark.

What about a hybrid? “We are looking at it, but it’s not decided,” says Tada. Given Toyota makes a hybrid Le Mans car, that consideration must be pretty serious.

Suspension, Killmans says, is also similar in basic principles to the BMW system, but with a different tune. The Supra will also be built at a BMW factory, Tada acknowledges.

It will carry GRMN badging beneath its Toyota logos. That’s Gazoo Racing Masters of the Nurburgring. GR is Toyota’s new specialist sporting division. Tada says there will be GRMN versions of lots of Toyotas, starting with the lairy little Yaris GRMN.
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ge...yota-supra-get-450bhp-bmw-straight-six-engine

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As much as I would love for this to be the case, TG magazine is just guessing.

Which means, and Tada confirms this, the Supra won’t use the Lexus V8. A BMW six then? “Few car companies have straight-six engines,” he replies. “Toyota did but it doesn’t any longer.” Toyota’s European R&D head Gerald Killmans later confirms that it’s a recalibrated version of the BMW engine. We suspect the M3’s twin-turbo. That means 450bhp ballpark.

Again that would be great news but that's just their suspicion. If this car ends up being a discounted lightweight BMW M4, that would be fantastic. Sort of like a Z3 M coupe, Z4M, with more toyota flair. If it came with a good transmission I think I'd have to put my money down immediately.

And yeah, wow, January 2019 NAIAS??? I completely missed that bit. Jesus. Again, I'm hoping this is just Top Gear's guess and not a fact.
 

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A 50:50 weight distribution and a lower center of gravity than the Toyota 86 would be quite the achievement. Hopefully the speculated engine will use the bottom end of a BMW motor with a Toyota/Yamaha-tuned top end (and the dual-injection D4S to prevent carbon build-up).
 

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January 2019 --- Ugh...hope that's not accurate.

I too am in disbelief on how it could attain a 50:50 weight distribution and lower center of gravity (that a GT86). Especially without the trans-axle and a non-boxer engine. My BRZ (and FRS before it) are about 52:48 F/R on the corner balance machine. The engineers are much smarter than me though, so I'm sure they have their ways.

At any rate, if the Supra does turn out to be the "elder brother" of the GT86, then I may be saying goodbye to my BRZ when this comes out! To me, this means it will still be light weight, agile and great handling, while more powerful (the biggest downside of the GT86). Honestly, if the weight and handling is still similar to the BRZ/86, I would be happy with the ~345/300 power guesses that have been thrown around already.
 
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