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Why does the Supra not have remote start?

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Read on Reddit that remote start will be a subscription based function for future Toyotas...if true F you Toyota
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Why is everyone so pressed about the remote start? Car warms up pretty damn fast if you ever leave it outside. Garage keeps it plenty warm.
 
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Why is everyone so pressed about the remote start? Car warms up pretty damn fast if you ever leave it outside. Garage keeps it plenty warm.
My wife has it free on her Subie...I thought the same as you. But it's nice to have I have to admit.
 

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Because it’s not a winter car, unlike a Subaru
BMWs rarely have remote start. Environmental shit as well.

But also, it's not a winter car.

And also. My first 10 or 15 cars remote start barely existed. You'll be fine.
 

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Read on Reddit that remote start will be a subscription based function for future Toyotas...if true F you Toyota
Arguably, it doesn't matter if Toyota makes remote start a subscription... it still wouldn't apply to Supra since the starter, head unit, key fob and even the damn phone app are all BMW anyways.

That said, BMW is just as likely (if not more) to make random features a subscription too. I think CarPlay support already is technically a subscription on the Supra even though you get some amount of years for free?
 

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BMW is offering remote start upgrade thru BMW app for applicable engines. B58 is one of them. As stated before, not sure how that's applying to Supra.
If Supra is in the garage, surely it's not needed, but when you're DDing and parked it in an open lot, not necessarily even snowy but cold weather, heat is comforting, for any car... especially if it snowed and you need it off the car.. Car has heated seats and heater. Otherwise let's remove those because all Supra owners drive in Summer....
Not everyone's use case is the same...
 

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Well .. last week we had -14 (Celsius) here and even with the car in a garage overnight it would be nice to have the option to remote start it.. at these temperatures the ambient temp inside the car drops quickly and it takes time before the engine heats up and can compensate, my house is on the very top of a hill so its idling all the way down but still..
 

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Read on Reddit that remote start will be a subscription based function for future Toyotas...if true F you Toyota
Remote start and other remote features require car to have cellular modem which cost money, just like your mobile phone service. Also this requires mnagement servers hosted in clooud to do authentication and other things. This also not free. Someone has to pay for all of these. Thus if you want to use remote service - it will always come at cost, either the total cost for lifetime of the car will be embedded into car price.
 
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Remote start and other remote features require car to have cellular modem which cost money, just like your mobile phone service. Also this requires mnagement servers hosted in clooud to do authentication and other things. This also not free. Someone has to pay for all of these. Thus if you want to use remote service - it will always come at cost, either the total cost for lifetime of the car will be embedded into car price.
You need a cellular modem? My Nsx had remote start on my after market alarm and there was no cellular modem.

And who says that this feature needs to be based on an App?
 

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Remote start and other remote features require car to have cellular modem which cost money, just like your mobile phone service. Also this requires mnagement servers hosted in clooud to do authentication and other things. This also not free. Someone has to pay for all of these. Thus if you want to use remote service - it will always come at cost, either the total cost for lifetime of the car will be embedded into car price.
Well.. A couple things.

First, the Supra (obviously) has a cell modem. That's how Nav, Weather, News, and Toyota Connect all work.

Second, while I would assume that Toyota probably does host things in the cloud, you absolutely could host any of this stuff on bare metal.
 

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Also, remote start with fob is different than remote start with app.
 

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I was wondering about this a few years ago. From my research (back then), having your car idling for no reason is illegal in Germany.
 
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If I remember correctly the B58 has a heat encapsulation system as passive protection for cold climates and starts. I drive year round and have never had remote start on my cars, which would be nice but I’m young and can handle the cold in the mornings, just annoying, but that’s life. I remember my mentors really enjoying the feature on their newer Toyotas but it never made much difference for me
 
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I was wondering about this a few years ago. From my research (back then), having your car idling for no reason is illegal in Germany.
As far as I know it's illegal to idle more than a minute ( at least in Norway, and we adhere to the eu rules), but that's probably not the reason.. in Europe very few cars (if any) come with a remote start, for all other reasons.. safety, ice cap melting, penguins, polar bears and so on..
my hope was that since 90% Supras end up in the US someone would come up with an aftermarket solution, but so far it looks like it's a to small market and not worth the development cost?
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