New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

[mrarm]

I personally wouldn't want it to be if 192 HP on a 40k car is correct. The thing won't sell.

But if what Mrarm says is correct and Euro spec, that might be an entirely different case.

These values are same as values of the news z4.
The intersting thing it’s is the stage 1 values and the torque values.

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[Modal170]

190kw.

EDIT:

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/lexus/2019-lexus-rc-f-sport-ar177821.html

"We don’t want to get ahead of ourselves, but we’d be surprised if Lexus keeps the RC F’s 5.0-liter V-8 engine and does nothing in the way of giving it increased power figures. The current RC model produces 467 horsepower and 389 pound-feet of torque, figures that would be fine if its rivals hadn’t made improvements on their own. Sure, the new Mercedes-AMG C 63 AMG still packs 469 horsepower in base form and 503 horsepower in S form, but at least there’s variety there where there isn’t from Lexus. For its part, the new BMW M4 is in the same boat as the RC F in that it’s still in the testing and development phase, but early reports hint that it could around 500 horsepower, as well. The base versions may still rival the RC F in power figures, but there’s no alternative when it comes to the Lexus. Maybe it’s time that Lexus does something about it.

On that note, it would be a huge win for the RC F to get an uptick in power, even if it’s marginal at best. The LC 500, for example, uses the same V-8 engine that’s been tweaked to produce 471 horsepower and 398 pound-feet of torque. It’s not much, but it’s a start. There are even rumors that a new version of the LC F will arrive with a new 4.0-liter bi-turbo V-8 unit with as much as 600 horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque. I’m not saying that Lexus should take that engine and use it on the RC F, but at this point, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t."

Hope you're having fun out there A70.

 

[mrarm]

EDIT:

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/lexus/2019-lexus-rc-f-sport-ar177821.html

"We don’t want to get ahead of ourselves, but we’d be surprised if Lexus keeps the RC F’s 5.0-liter V-8 engine and does nothing in the way of giving it increased power figures. The current RC model produces 467 horsepower and 389 pound-feet of torque, figures that would be fine if its rivals hadn’t made improvements on their own. Sure, the new Mercedes-AMG C 63 AMG still packs 469 horsepower in base form and 503 horsepower in S form, but at least there’s variety there where there isn’t from Lexus. For its part, the new BMW M4 is in the same boat as the RC F in that it’s still in the testing and development phase, but early reports hint that it could around 500 horsepower, as well. The base versions may still rival the RC F in power figures, but there’s no alternative when it comes to the Lexus. Maybe it’s time that Lexus does something about it.

On that note, it would be a huge win for the RC F to get an uptick in power, even if it’s marginal at best. The LC 500, for example, uses the same V-8 engine that’s been tweaked to produce 471 horsepower and 398 pound-feet of torque. It’s not much, but it’s a start. There are even rumors that a new version of the LC F will arrive with a new 4.0-liter bi-turbo V-8 unit with as much as 600 horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque. I’m not saying that Lexus should take that engine and use it on the RC F, but at this point, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t."

Hope you're having fun out there A70.

LC-F is a luxury car and don’t forbid this weight.
More power isn’t more faster ^^

 

[Zupra]

When Tada said a V8 could fit in the A90, was he referring to this rumored 4.0 Bi-Turbo motor?!?!

 

[mrarm]

When Tada said a V8 could fit in the A90, was he referring to this rumored 4.0 Bi-Turbo motor?!?!

This indicate there are very huge possibilities for swap good point

 

[A70TTR]

Haha, auto journalists just regurgitate everything they hear elsewhere.

That said, I don't see the new engine making its way down into the lower F trims, at least not for a while.

For instance, the LC500 already has the 'F' 2UR-GSE after all. It's the Lexus halo coupe.

 

[BRX]

When Tada said a V8 could fit in the A90, was he referring to this rumored 4.0 Bi-Turbo motor?!?!

He was probably referring to the GR Racing Concept most likely using a V8, not one for production. A Supra with a Toyota V8 would be too perfect for the enthusiast to ever actually be put into production. If it was only Mercedes that Toyota made the Supra with...

 

[Modal170]

If it was only Mercedes that Toyota made the Supra with...

BRX, I love you but

 

[A70TTR]

I am forever indebted to whoever prevented that... I have a serious distaste for VW and Mercedes products.

 

[BRX]

I'd always go with a V8 over a 6 cylinder. Just imagine an M157 in a Supra with Toyota reliability. +700hp/tq with only a downpipe and a tune I do hate their farts while shifting though...

 

[mrarm]

I just saw that the auto box is a ZF-8HP51HIS.

The number 51 indicate the max torque of the gearbox 510 N.m
It is rather not bad as it seems to be instal also on the 4 cylinders.
But for the 6 cylinder it is really limited in case of engine cheaptuning.
Not being an expert in the automatic box, that would tell me if a automatic gearbox of this type can easily accept more torque just changing the torque converter?

 

[BRX]

I just saw that the auto box is a ZF-8HP51HIS.

The number 51 indicate the max torque of the gearbox 510 N.m
It is rather not bad as it seems to be instal also on the 4 cylinders.
But for the 6 cylinder it is really limited in case of engine cheaptuning.
Not being an expert in the automatic box, that would tell me if a automatic gearbox of this type can easily accept more torque just changing the torque converter?

I don't think that torque rating is correct (~380 lb/ft). That's barely enough torque to be on par with the F-series engines which is uncommon but I've seen instances where manufacturers would rate them exactly or barely above the engines they're mated to. For example the AA81E in the ISF/RC-F is rated at 405 if I remember correctly with the 5.0L making just under 400.

Autos are much easier to beef up than Manuals as what usually "breaks" are the clutch packs. Some machining and adding more of the same clutch packs can almost double the torque rating. A converter rarely has anything to do with power. My truck's transmission starts to slip at 650 lb/ft at the wheels stock. With the mentioned upgrades, it's holding more than a 1000 now.

 

[mrarm]

I don't think that torque rating is correct (~380 lb/ft). That's barely enough torque to be on par with the F-series engines which is uncommon but I've seen instances where manufacturers would rate them exactly or barely above the engines they're mated to. For example the AA81E in the ISF/RC-F is rated at 405 if I remember correctly with the 5.0L making just under 400.

Autos are much easier to beef up than Manuals as what usually "breaks" are the clutch packs. Some machining and adding more of the same clutch packs can almost double the torque rating. A converter rarely has anything to do with power. My truck's transmission starts to slip at 650 lb/ft at the wheels stock. With the mentioned upgrades, it's holding more than a 1000 now.

Badly I think toyota want used the same gearbox for all this supra gr for decreased cost .
Increasing the power would involve changing the gearbox .. for a minimum ZF8HP75-> 750N·m or ZF8HP95 ->950N·m.

 

[lemetier]

I just saw that the auto box is a ZF-8HP51HIS.
The number 51 indicate the max torque of the gearbox 510 N.m
It is rather not bad as it seems to be instal also on the 4 cylinders.
But for the 6 cylinder it is really limited in case of engine cheaptuning.
Not being an expert in the automatic box, that would tell me if a automatic gearbox of this type can easily accept more torque just changing the torque converter?

ZF’s nomenclature has changed over the years with the modular 8 Speed Families and represents only the “generic” planetary model internal startup clutch/brake set B limit (510nm in this case). The 8_P51 covers the 400nm - 600nm range. The Torque Converters have their own certified ratings (the 2nd Gen and later 8P can function without a T/C) so when combined, each gearbox derivative has its own unique limits.

I don't think that torque rating is correct (~380 lb/ft). That's barely enough torque to be on par with the F-series engines which is uncommon but I've seen instances where manufacturers would rate them exactly or barely above the engines they're mated to. For example the AA81E in the ISF/RC-F is rated at 405 if I remember correctly with the 5.0L making just under 400.

Autos are much easier to beef up than Manuals as what usually "breaks" are the clutch packs. Some machining and adding more of the same clutch packs can almost double the torque rating. A converter rarely has anything to do with power. My truck's transmission starts to slip at 650 lb/ft at the wheels stock. With the mentioned upgrades, it's holding more than a 1000 now.

Those who are going to get the A90 and plan to mod should invest some time in learning about the 3rd Gen 8HP.

Badly I think toyota want used the same gearbox for all this supra gr for decreased cost .
Increasing the power would involve changing the gearbox .. for a minimum ZF8HP75-> 750N·m or ZF8HP95 ->950N·m.

8HP76 (3rd Gen) isn’t really necessary. 8HP95/96 are enormous.

 

[mrarm]

ZF’s nomenclature has changed over the years with the modular 8 Speed Families and represents only the “generic” planetary model internal startup clutch/brake set B limit (510nm in this case). The 8_P51 covers the 400nm - 600nm range. The Torque Converters have their own certified ratings (the 2nd Gen and later 8P can function without a T/C) so when combined, each gearbox derivative has its own unique limits.



Those who are going to get the A90 and plan toomatic gearbox.
If

ZF’s nomenclature has changed over the years with the modular 8 Speed Families and represents only the “generic” planetary model internal startup clutch/brake set B limit (510nm in this case). The 8_P51 covers the 400nm - 600nm range. The Torque Converters have their own certified ratings (the 2nd Gen and later 8P can function without a T/C) so when combined, each gearbox derivative has its own unique limits.



Those who are going to get the A90 and plan to mod should invest some time in learning about the 3rd Gen 8HP.



8HP76 (3rd Gen) isn’t really necessary. 8HP95/96 are enormous.

I want make a mod in the A90. That’s why I invest some time in learning about the 3rd gen 8hp.
I have never drive an automatic gearbox.
If I understood very well, ok for mod not over 600N.m for the 8_P51.
More you should used 8_P75.
Thank for these informations.
It’s not easy to find it in internet.

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