BRZer86
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Let alone, one that is naturally aspirated versus “hype-red”.That there will be one?
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Let alone, one that is naturally aspirated versus “hype-red”.That there will be one?
Nowadays, even supercar manufacturers, use a lot of plastics, aside from carbon fiber. Plastics are less durable but they are cheaper and easier to replace(and manufacture as well).I like.
It's a little too plasticked-up, so not sure how modding would do on that, but you could just unscrew it...
Your stating the obvious, of course the transmission is made by another vendor, or the brakes, etc... When I said it is “BMW” i was referencing the ZF trans with a BMW name casting stamped on it, or Brembo’s with BMW casting on it, etc... I am not talking about the sticker or cheap badges. I would be extremely shocked and amazed if the components I mentioned earlier had a Toyota casting on them, instead of BMW from the vendor. Take a look at the Getrag V160 on the MKIV Supra, it clearly had Getrag casting stamped on it, with the Toyota logo casting stamped right next to it. Im saying, we won’t see any of the stuff I mentioned earlier with a Toyota casting stamped next to the vendors name, we will only see BMW’s.BMW sourced engine? Yes
Brake Calipers? Brembo
Differential? ZF or GKN depending on equipment
Interior? Grupo Antolin, Ficosa, Lear, Sparco, TRW, just to name a few.
Suspension? Bilstein, ThyssenKrupp, and ZF
Factory? Yes contract assembly by Magna-Steyr, they haven’t built an X3 in 2 generations, most recent BMW is the 5er, and they also build the AM Rapide, Jaguar iPace, MB G Class plus more.
Well for starters, I would in theory be buying a Toyota that's not a Toyota....right?I understand people being upset about BMW being a huge part of the MKV. I'm a Toyota purist to the core but I honestly didn't care much about this. For all those who hate the MKV for having BMW parts, just take it out of the equation and tell me if you don't like what you hear (this is all rumors and speculations of course):
Toyota Supra MKV:
CGI Inline 6 Turbo 350-400HP (capable of making +600WHP with only supporting mods)
3000-3300 lbs
Lower COG than an 86
As rigid as an LFA
Non DCT 8 Speed transmission (fastest in it's class)
Manual transmission coming later
TSS
Estimated Price below $65k
Tell me this isn't what every Supra enthusiast wants. Why does adding BMW to the equation ruin this car? We all wanted a beast out of the box with a TT V6 pushing 500-600HP but lets all be honest here it would cost over $100k and be called an LC-F. I'm looking at you A70
With such a long development and the hordes of test mules all over the world I would expect Toyota-esque ammounts of TSB´s.I would very much like for this forum to create a TSB or Recall registry when the MKV Supra is released. I think then it will put into perspective why all this "BMW talk" matters.
Sorry, “roundels” for you Euro boys:As for taking "great pride" in a logo (which has nothing to do with a propeller BTW)
It’s not a myth, the internet even busts the myth by saying, “For BMW, it was 'a happy coincidence' that the BMW logo symbolized the Bavarian flag colors and represented the company's origin.” Which means everyone knows it’s not true, but just a coincidence. However everyone (except cocky Euro boys) call them propellers because there was an ad a long time ago that represented the logo with an old plane.You have fallen for an internet myth. It has nothing to do with a propeller, as I stated.
https://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/bmw-roundel-not-born-from-planes/
https://www.logodesignlove.com/bmw-logo-evolution
https://www.bmwblog.com/2010/06/06/video-the-origin-of-the-bmw-logo-explained/
I don’t give two shits....i aint buying either one (Z4 or MKV).Seriously, who cares.
Outside this forum no one is talking or is even aware of a new Supra. Even dealerships are clueless. This is such a tiny segment of the market compared to what it used to be and that is exactly why we are getting these cars right now, they way they are. Toyota knows this, they just want to be able to use the Supra name again and they are aiming for a new kind of customer.I don’t give two shits....i aint buying either one (Z4 or MKV).