KahnBB6
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This is an interesting take on an enthusiast EV from Dodge. They don't, as far as I am aware, have access right now to any bleeding edge solid state battery technology so in all likelihood this thing probably weighs, as constructed, as much as a Tesla Model S Plaid or Taycan Turbo.
However there are three main draws:
1.) It has some kind of specially developed multi-speed transmission that can be shifted (like an old Torqueflight 3-speed prepped for drag racing, perhaps?). Dodge claims you can shift this specially designed "eRupt" (facepalm emoji for the silly name) transmission.
2.) It revs its electric motor, apparently. This is pretty common to see with DIY DC electric motor conversions to older manual transmission cars (just leave it in neutral and push your accelerator/potentiometer and there you go) but it's not common at all for production EVs.
If this is accurate it might be achieved by decoupling the electric motor from the drive gearset(s) in park, neutral or when in some kind of simulated "manual" mode. Dodge isn't saying how right now.
3.) The sound it makes when it's moving slowly HAS to be artificially generated. I just don't see how it wouldn't be. A low speed sound for EVs is Federally required after all.
However when you rev it, again, according to Dodge, this is the actual driveline (motor?) sound amplified up quite a bit and sent through a kind of "exhaust"/tube thing that resonates this sound through this path. Dodge claims that at full "throttle" it can reach 126dB, similar to a Hellcat at full boil under load.
The interior, thankfully, has a mostly driver-oriented layout without too much touchscreen dominance and some physical buttons for basic things (so it seems).
Dodge muscle cars may not be everyone's cup of tea but I do find their experiment here with giving their cult cars a unique and, according to them, not fake but rather amplified sound, interesting.
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Amplifying actual EV driveline noise in some way is one of the approaches that I wanted to see any automaker try out and this is a step in the right direction IMO. We love sound in our cars and generally we dislike it when that sound is 100% fake. In this case it's just helped and augmented a bit.
I'm curious to see where this goes and how it pans out in the real world once these cars go into production.
And hopefully they'll keep it a two-door coupe like this concept is.
The only part of this that bothers me a bit is that Dodge seems to be embracing a model where there are only a couple of true variants of the production model (with the 800V "Banshee" at the top) and yet all the stated capabilities that the actual physical hardware on the car can do may be locked behind a "pay to unlock" a-la-carte feature menu or package menu.
And that's getting into the same territory that BMW, Ford, GM, VW and other automakers have been testing the waters with for subscription features that your car is already technically capable of.
It makes me wonder how the auto industry at large might try to use their might to combat aftermarket tuners and coders who could, with a lot of effort, crack a popular car's operating system and unlock or create new features of their own outside of each manufacturer's expensive lump sum or subscription fee walled garden.
Here's hoping the perpetual subscription angle for more power and neat driving modes won't be Dodge's choice in this.
https://www.motor1.com/news/604972/dodge-charger-daytona-srt-concept-ev-debut/
https://www.motor1.com/news/605004/dodge-charger-daytona-exhaust-sound/
(Skip to 1min, 54sec to hear the "idle" but more importantly, the revving)
However there are three main draws:
1.) It has some kind of specially developed multi-speed transmission that can be shifted (like an old Torqueflight 3-speed prepped for drag racing, perhaps?). Dodge claims you can shift this specially designed "eRupt" (facepalm emoji for the silly name) transmission.
2.) It revs its electric motor, apparently. This is pretty common to see with DIY DC electric motor conversions to older manual transmission cars (just leave it in neutral and push your accelerator/potentiometer and there you go) but it's not common at all for production EVs.
If this is accurate it might be achieved by decoupling the electric motor from the drive gearset(s) in park, neutral or when in some kind of simulated "manual" mode. Dodge isn't saying how right now.
3.) The sound it makes when it's moving slowly HAS to be artificially generated. I just don't see how it wouldn't be. A low speed sound for EVs is Federally required after all.
However when you rev it, again, according to Dodge, this is the actual driveline (motor?) sound amplified up quite a bit and sent through a kind of "exhaust"/tube thing that resonates this sound through this path. Dodge claims that at full "throttle" it can reach 126dB, similar to a Hellcat at full boil under load.
The interior, thankfully, has a mostly driver-oriented layout without too much touchscreen dominance and some physical buttons for basic things (so it seems).
Dodge muscle cars may not be everyone's cup of tea but I do find their experiment here with giving their cult cars a unique and, according to them, not fake but rather amplified sound, interesting.
....
Amplifying actual EV driveline noise in some way is one of the approaches that I wanted to see any automaker try out and this is a step in the right direction IMO. We love sound in our cars and generally we dislike it when that sound is 100% fake. In this case it's just helped and augmented a bit.
I'm curious to see where this goes and how it pans out in the real world once these cars go into production.
And hopefully they'll keep it a two-door coupe like this concept is.
The only part of this that bothers me a bit is that Dodge seems to be embracing a model where there are only a couple of true variants of the production model (with the 800V "Banshee" at the top) and yet all the stated capabilities that the actual physical hardware on the car can do may be locked behind a "pay to unlock" a-la-carte feature menu or package menu.
And that's getting into the same territory that BMW, Ford, GM, VW and other automakers have been testing the waters with for subscription features that your car is already technically capable of.
It makes me wonder how the auto industry at large might try to use their might to combat aftermarket tuners and coders who could, with a lot of effort, crack a popular car's operating system and unlock or create new features of their own outside of each manufacturer's expensive lump sum or subscription fee walled garden.
Here's hoping the perpetual subscription angle for more power and neat driving modes won't be Dodge's choice in this.
https://www.motor1.com/news/604972/dodge-charger-daytona-srt-concept-ev-debut/
https://www.motor1.com/news/605004/dodge-charger-daytona-exhaust-sound/
(Skip to 1min, 54sec to hear the "idle" but more importantly, the revving)
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