2023 MT Supra vs 2023 AT Supra

[FLtrackdays]

but keyboard racing is the best way to be faster on track.

I absolutely love mine! Fun as ? Can‘t believe Toyota made these bad boyEEs. No brainer in either form.

I still don’t get how they did it $10k cheaper than the Z4. Not complaining, just sayin.

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[BMWAF]

I still don’t get how they did it $10k cheaper than the Z4. Not complaining, just sayin.

That one's easy - the Z4 Interior leaves us for dead.

 

[FLtrackdays]

That one's easy - the Z4 Interior leaves us for dead.

Admittedly I actually love the Z4, if I wasn’t going for a mainly track car. I’ve never looked inside the Z4. But will take your word for it. She’s stunning outside imo. Since I could only buy one additional play toy, between the weight & price - the Supra was a win win - for me?

 

[BMWAF]

Admittedly I actually love the Z4, if I wasn’t going for a mainly track car. I’ve never looked inside the Z4. But will take your word for it. She’s stunning outside imo. Since I could only buy one additional play toy, between the weight & price - the Supra was a win win - for me?

The Supra interior is nice, but the current model BMWs are just next level.

 

[noogie]

i think if you set the interior quality to toyota level, the supra is actually pretty nice.

 

[BMWAF]

i think if you set the interior quality to toyota level, the supra is actually pretty nice.

? Toyota interiors are complete garbage.. I wouldn't even have considered a Toyota interirored Supra! lol.

Toyota < Supra < BMW

 

[AJRMKV]

Update:

Ran a 2020 MHD OTS stage 2 map Supra at the track with catless downpipe, intake and tune.

Race was from a roll on a strip

Run was from 50 - 130, the MHD Supra pulled 1.5 - 2 cars. I forgot to ask if it was the 91 map but the owner was surprised that he didn’t pull more. Traction might have been an issue for him but he was running a 200tw tire, I forgot which brand.

Maybe it pulls timing like the JB4 car because of bad fuel?

 

[FLtrackdays]

Update:

Ran a 2020 MHD OTS stage 2 map Supra at the track with catless downpipe, intake and tune.

Run was from 50 - 130, the MHD Supra pulled 1.5 - 2 cars. I forgot to ask if it was the 91 map but the owner was surprised that he didn’t pull more. Traction might have been an issue for him but he was running a 200tw tire, I forgot which brand.

Maybe it pulls timing like the JB4 car because of bad fuel?

What kind of track? Perhaps he was a faster driver?

 

[AJRMKV]

What kind of track? Perhaps he was a faster driver?

Roll race on a strip.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Roll race on a strip.

Gotcha ??
Didn’t fully understand your post ?

 

[AJRMKV]

Gotcha ??
Didn’t fully understand your post ?

Fixed!

 

[Andrew4Supra]

i think if you set the interior quality to toyota level, the supra is actually pretty nice.

~ I wish the leather seat material was higher end... truly feels like an industrial vinyl imo.

The performance and exterior looks more than make up for it.

 

[kaj]

~ I wish the leather seat material was higher end... truly feels like an industrial vinyl imo.

The performance and exterior looks more than make up for it.

Base model seats are sweet. I wouldn't trade them for anything other than something with a fixed back (which I finally had to do).
Hard to beat Alcantera.

 

[lucky phil]

Driving a manual is about "engagement" not absolute speed anymore. In the hands of the average to above average skilled driver my money would be on the auto being faster on the track or the strip.
Here's one of my favourite in car videos. Big V8 bellowing away, manual gearbox (and the odd fluffed shift) a hellishly valuable GT40 in the wet and driving it like a man just because he can and he's an amazing driver. Kenny Brack, Goodwood in the wet, the antidote to boring track day vidoes.


Phil

 

[FLtrackdays]

Driving a manual is about "engagement" not absolute speed anymore. In the hands of the average to above average skilled driver my money would be on the auto being faster on the track or the strip.
Here's one of my favourite in car videos. Big V8 bellowing away, manual gearbox (and the odd fluffed shift) a hellishly valuable GT40 in the wet and driving it like a man just because he can and he's an amazing driver. Kenny Brack, Goodwood in the wet, the antidote to boring track day vidoes.


Phil

That’s insane driving in the rain! I feel like such a grandma ? after watching that. He reminds me of the longest winning MX5 driver John Dean. Amazing what skill those guys have in any car or condition!

~ I wish the leather seat material was higher end... truly feels like an industrial vinyl imo.

The performance and exterior looks more than make up for it.

I do like how durable they are with my sweat from gym or track. Very easy to scrub off marks as well. My wife and I used to order BMWs with the “pleather” ?. Forgo the feel for wear and tear.

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