Achieving 750WHP+ Without Port Injection - A Plug and Play Solution for 2020+ Supras

[Twisted Tuning]

possibly dumb question. do we have control of the DI injection rate profiles in ecutek?

every flash platform does

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[kehvin]

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cant wait to see what the data shows ?
been debating over the spool upgrades and the pi route for a bit

 

[razorlab]

ChatGPT Prompt:

There are two fueling options for the A90 Toyota Supra. The first option is called PI (Port Injection) and is controlled via piggyback controller called Motive Reflex. The second option is upgrading the HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump), the fuel injectors and the LPFP (Low Pressure Fuel Pump). Please create a marketing announcement that the second option is now available to everyone and it is a far superior option that will unlock the performance of the A90 Toyota Supra. Please write this marketing announcement in a slightly over zealous tone with a lot of colorful words.


ChatGPT output:

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? Unleash the BEAST Within Your A90 Toyota Supra! ?

Introducing the ULTIMATE Powerhouse Upgrade: The A90 Supra FUEL REVOLUTION! ??
? Are you ready to IGNITE the streets with a fire-breathing, pavement-crushing MONSTER? ?

Prepare to Experience the Unstoppable Power of the A90 Toyota Supra with our EXCLUSIVE Fuel System Upgrade! Say goodbye to mediocrity and HELLO to supremacy as you UPGRADE your ride with the most formidable, performance-enhancing option EVER - the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) and Fuel Injector UPGRADE! ??

? Unleash a WHIRLWIND of untamed horsepower! ?

? Get ready to DOMINATE the competition with these UNRIVALED advantages:
Skyrocketed Horsepower: Feel the raw adrenaline coursing through your veins as you take command of a SUPRA that's truly UNLEASHED!
Instant Torque Surge: Rip through the asphalt like a thunderbolt with jaw-dropping acceleration!
Effortless Speed: Effortlessly conquer the open road with newfound power at your comman
Fuel Efficiency: Harness this incredible power without sacrificing efficiency thanks to precision engineerin
Dominant On-Track Performance: Leave the competition in the dust with track-tuned excellence!

? Fuel System Upgrade - Your Gateway to Supremacy! ?
Why settle for less when you can have MORE?

? Our HPFP and Fuel Injector Upgrade will have you feeling like you're driving on a cloud of PURE ENERGY! ?

? Don't let the competition even catch a glimpse of your taillights! ?

? Unlock the TRUE potential of your A90 Toyota Supra TODAY! ?

? Act NOW to experience the GREATEST transformation your Supra has ever seen! ?

? Fuel the FIRE within - Upgrade to POWER, Upgrade to SUPREMACY! ?

? Get in touch with our experts today and embark on a journey to UNLEASH the BEAST within your A90 Toyota Supra! ?

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I rest my case. Say goodbye to mediocrity and HELLO to supremacy.

 

[bushido]

I rest my case. Say goodbye to mediocrity and HELLO to supremacy.

bryan, you have a reserved seat next to the king of the underworld, i hope you know

 

[Awad]

ChatGPT Prompt:

There are two fueling options for the A90 Toyota Supra. The first option is called PI (Port Injection) and is controlled via piggyback controller called Motive Reflex. The second option is upgrading the HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump), the fuel injectors and the LPFP (Low Pressure Fuel Pump). Please create a marketing announcement that the second option is now available to everyone and it is a far superior option that will unlock the performance of the A90 Toyota Supra. Please right this marketing announcement in a slightly over zealous tone with a lot of colorful words.


ChatGPT output:

? Unleash the BEAST Within Your A90 Toyota Supra! ?

Introducing the ULTIMATE Powerhouse Upgrade: The A90 Supra FUEL REVOLUTION! ??
? Are you ready to IGNITE the streets with a fire-breathing, pavement-crushing MONSTER? ?

Prepare to Experience the Unstoppable Power of the A90 Toyota Supra with our EXCLUSIVE Fuel System Upgrade! Say goodbye to mediocrity and HELLO to supremacy as you UPGRADE your ride with the most formidable, performance-enhancing option EVER - the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) and Fuel Injector UPGRADE! ??

? Unleash a WHIRLWIND of untamed horsepower! ?

? Get ready to DOMINATE the competition with these UNRIVALED advantages:
Skyrocketed Horsepower: Feel the raw adrenaline coursing through your veins as you take command of a SUPRA that's truly UNLEASHED!
Instant Torque Surge: Rip through the asphalt like a thunderbolt with jaw-dropping acceleration!
Effortless Speed: Effortlessly conquer the open road with newfound power at your comman
Fuel Efficiency: Harness this incredible power without sacrificing efficiency thanks to precision engineerin
Dominant On-Track Performance: Leave the competition in the dust with track-tuned excellence!

? Fuel System Upgrade - Your Gateway to Supremacy! ?
Why settle for less when you can have MORE?

? Our HPFP and Fuel Injector Upgrade will have you feeling like you're driving on a cloud of PURE ENERGY! ?

? Don't let the competition even catch a glimpse of your taillights! ?

? Unlock the TRUE potential of your A90 Toyota Supra TODAY! ?

? Act NOW to experience the GREATEST transformation your Supra has ever seen! ?

? Fuel the FIRE within - Upgrade to POWER, Upgrade to SUPREMACY! ?

? Get in touch with our experts today and embark on a journey to UNLEASH the BEAST within your A90 Toyota Supra! ?


I rest my case.

I still don’t get your point ? To push numbers I want to push you either to PI or DI I chose DI and posting the progress and data I already have the parts now it’s just logging . However I wrote it is personal preference title is not misleading as you need PI or DI upgrades to reach numbers that I posted in title you are just commenting on the way I posted it and I respect that you might not like it however the only thing that matters are results and the fact that you said I don’t have the parts is plainly not true . I paid this with my own money FYI

 

[razorlab]

I still don’t get your point ? To push numbers I want to push you either to PI or DI I chose DI and posting the progress and data I already have the parts now it’s just logging . However I wrote it is personal preference title is not misleading as you need PI or DI upgrades to reach numbers that I posted in title you are just commenting on the way I posted it and I respect that you might not like it however the only thing that matters are results and the fact that you said I don’t have the parts is plainly not true . I paid this with my own money FYI

I know you are smarter than this.

• You write things like you work at an advertising agency and you just did a line of coke in the bathroom.
• You claim things that you haven't even done, as you aren't even using the parts yet.

I'm sure that 15% discount had nothing to do with.

ALL THIS ASIDE. I am very interested in seeing your 3rd party results from this combo... when it actually happens.

 

[Awad]

Nit picking on things that benefit no one is just toxic , I am sharing my experience and data with everyone who doesn’t wanna go PI route it is very ignorant to think or want people to do things a specific way whoever wants PI good whoever wants DI good the only thing that matters is seeing how much we can push with these upgrades through DI so maybe rather than arguing and nit picking on what I post you can share things that are beneficial for everyone

ChatGPT Prompt:

There are two fueling options for the A90 Toyota Supra. The first option is called PI (Port Injection) and is controlled via piggyback controller called Motive Reflex. The second option is upgrading the HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump), the fuel injectors and the LPFP (Low Pressure Fuel Pump). Please create a marketing announcement that the second option is now available to everyone and it is a far superior option that will unlock the performance of the A90 Toyota Supra. Please write this marketing announcement in a slightly over zealous tone with a lot of colorful words.


ChatGPT output:

------------------------------------------------------------------

? Unleash the BEAST Within Your A90 Toyota Supra! ?

Introducing the ULTIMATE Powerhouse Upgrade: The A90 Supra FUEL REVOLUTION! ??
? Are you ready to IGNITE the streets with a fire-breathing, pavement-crushing MONSTER? ?

Prepare to Experience the Unstoppable Power of the A90 Toyota Supra with our EXCLUSIVE Fuel System Upgrade! Say goodbye to mediocrity and HELLO to supremacy as you UPGRADE your ride with the most formidable, performance-enhancing option EVER - the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) and Fuel Injector UPGRADE! ??

? Unleash a WHIRLWIND of untamed horsepower! ?

? Get ready to DOMINATE the competition with these UNRIVALED advantages:
Skyrocketed Horsepower: Feel the raw adrenaline coursing through your veins as you take command of a SUPRA that's truly UNLEASHED!
Instant Torque Surge: Rip through the asphalt like a thunderbolt with jaw-dropping acceleration!
Effortless Speed: Effortlessly conquer the open road with newfound power at your comman
Fuel Efficiency: Harness this incredible power without sacrificing efficiency thanks to precision engineerin
Dominant On-Track Performance: Leave the competition in the dust with track-tuned excellence!

? Fuel System Upgrade - Your Gateway to Supremacy! ?
Why settle for less when you can have MORE?

? Our HPFP and Fuel Injector Upgrade will have you feeling like you're driving on a cloud of PURE ENERGY! ?

? Don't let the competition even catch a glimpse of your taillights! ?

? Unlock the TRUE potential of your A90 Toyota Supra TODAY! ?

? Act NOW to experience the GREATEST transformation your Supra has ever seen! ?

? Fuel the FIRE within - Upgrade to POWER, Upgrade to SUPREMACY! ?

? Get in touch with our experts today and embark on a journey to UNLEASH the BEAST within your A90 Toyota Supra! ?

------------------------------------------------------------------

I rest my case. Say goodbye to mediocrity and HELLO to supremacy.

Nit picking on things that benefit no one is just toxic , I am sharing my experience and data with everyone who doesn’t wanna go PI route it is very ignorant to think or want people to do things a specific way whoever wants PI good whoever wants DI good the only thing that matters is seeing how much we can push with these upgrades through DI so maybe rather than arguing and nit picking on what I post you can share things that are beneficial for everyone

I know you are smarter than this.

• You write things like you work at an advertising agency and you just did a line of coke in the bathroom.
• You claim things that you haven't even done, as you aren't even using the parts yet.

imagine researching before buying parts ? How do you know turbos give you more power before installing it ? Has it ever crossed your mind that parts are tested before being released and already have data claimed and I am testing it myself to see these claims ? Imagine

 

[razorlab]

bryan, you have a reserved seat next to the king of the underworld, i hope you know

 

[razorlab]

imagine researching before buying parts ? How do you know turbos give you more power before installing it ? Has it ever crossed your mind that parts are tested before being released and already have data claimed and I am testing it myself to see these claims ? Imagine

I for one, cannot wait to see you DOMINATE.

 

[Awad]

I for one, cannot wait to see you DOMINATE.

My posts benefit everyone once data is posted and price is already known people can take a decision based on data arguing with me as if I am your enemy makes 0 sense

 

[dzeleski]

I still dont get what the fear is of using PI without Ecutek / Canbus Reflex integration. Plenty of platforms still use AIC controllers. I used an AIC for the first 12 months of using an upgraded turbo prior to reflex even being released.

Its not needed if you have a competent tuner and are not pushing everything to the limits. Yes for cars that are balls the wall its definitely needed, but that's no offense like no one here lol.

I wonder if its more from tuners that sell the products that beat it into peoples heads its required...

There are a lot of wires and hoses connected to that IM+plate. Swapping a pump and some injectors is way less complicated than having to deal with a PI plate, reflex etc. These cars aren’t a K24 where you can have the IM off in 10 minutes.

Just to be clear I’m not saying one way or another is better/cheaper. Personally I don’t really care but I do see the upfront appeal on just slapping in a pump and injectors and being done. Remember most people are not doing these installs every day and it takes them way longer. They may not want to wrench on their car for a dozen hours just to be able to make another 100hp.

 

[razorlab]

My posts benefit everyone once data is posted and price is already known people can take a decision based on data arguing with me as if I am your enemy makes 0 sense

You finally got it! Welcome to SUPREMACY!

 

[Awad]

There are a lot of wires and hoses connected to that IM+plate. Swapping a pump and some injectors is way less complicated than having to deal with a PI plate, reflex etc. These cars aren’t a K24 where you can have the IM off in 10 minutes.

Just to be clear I’m not saying one way or another is better/cheaper. Personally I don’t really care but I do see the upfront appeal on just slapping in a pump and injectors and being done. Remember most people are not doing these installs every day and it takes them way longer. They may not want to wrench on their car for a dozen hours just to be able to make another 100hp.

This is exactly why I went this route I don’t know how well everything will
Work once BM3 and MHD have motiv integration however changing HPFP and injectors is more appealing to me

 

[Jesse DaBears]

There are a lot of wires and hoses connected to that IM+plate. Swapping a pump and some injectors is way less complicated than having to deal with a PI plate, reflex etc. These cars aren’t a K24 where you can have the IM off in 10 minutes.

Just to be clear I’m not saying one way or another is better/cheaper. Personally I don’t really care but I do see the upfront appeal on just slapping in a pump and injectors and being done. Remember most people are not doing these installs every day and it takes them way longer. They may not want to wrench on their car for a dozen hours just to be able to make another 100hp.

If someone would struggle removing the IM I dont recommend either of these installs for them. Removing the injectors and replacing seals are not EASY. You need a special tool just to do the seals.

 

[dzeleski]

If someone would struggle removing the IM I dont recommend either of these installs for them. Removing the injectors and replacing seals are not EASY. You need a special tool just to do the seals.

Disagree the removal tool is like 130 bucks and places rent them for a fraction of that. Newer cars the DI aren’t seized into the motor so the job is overall much easier. I believe the new injectors come with the seal so you don’t need the seal tool.

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