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Yeah, big cities are expensive no doubt. No 1 & 2 on that high roller $$$ list don’t seem nearly as nice as Sydney for a good safe vacation spot.
Dude.. just come to Melbourne. It's like Sydney but we have better coffee, worse road laws and a slight chip on our shoulder, despite having just surpassed Sydney in population size.
 

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Dude.. just come to Melbourne. It's like Sydney but we have better coffee, worse road laws and a slight chip on our shoulder, despite having just surpassed Sydney in population size.
Really, didn't know that. Quite depressing really. More people and the same shit infostructure. Why the hell anyone would want the population of an already straining at the seams city to grow is beyond me. I moved here from Sydney 21 years ago and in that time the population has grown by 1.4 million people which is why it's so shite these days. Between 10 and 1330 is the only time you can drive these days and every drive during the week is endless road works or road side mowing or clowns tossing a shovel full of bitumen in a hole and walking away. The weekends in the Yarra valley are just packed with people, the wife and I stay home now on weekends but even during the weekdays the Cafes and wineries are damn busy as well.
Some of the worlds best cities have had a way smaller and stable population for the last 50 years. Here we just grow the population as a smoke and mirrors way of achieving economic growth. Can't go on forever but in the meantime it's pretty hopeless here.

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Really, didn't know that. Quite depressing really. More people and the same shit infostructure. Why the hell anyone would want the population of an already straining at the seams city to grow is beyond me. I moved here from Sydney 21 years ago and in that time the population has grown by 1.4 million people which is why it's so shite these days. Between 10 and 1330 is the only time you can drive these days and every drive during the week is endless road works or road side mowing or clowns tossing a shovel full of bitumen in a hole and walking away. The weekends in the Yarra valley are just packed with people, the wife and I stay home now on weekends but even during the weekdays the Cafes and wineries are damn busy as well.
Some of the worlds best cities have had a way smaller and stable population for the last 50 years. Here we just grow the population as a smoke and mirrors way of achieving economic growth. Can't go on forever but in the meantime it's pretty hopeless here.

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I don't think it's quite that bad! I drove Toolangi circuit a few weekends ago and there was hardly any cars on the road. There were a fair few NPCs atop Mount Donna Buang but overall it wasn't enough to complaining about. And in my experience, midweek runs are an absolute dream in country Victoria.

Beyond that, compared to most cities I have been to around the world, Melbourne is undercrowded by half. And while I agree it has gotten worse in the past few years - partiduclarly in the CBD - as a Melbournian I am contractually obligated to state that Melbourne is still leaps and bounds better than Sydney.. and always will be. 😃
 

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Some of the worlds best cities have had a way smaller and stable population for the last 50 years.
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Like who? Where? Seriously just out of curiosity… 😊

Always looking for good vacation destinations. Greenville, SC is one of the few in the States that has grown over the years and become better. Clean, safe and absolutely beautiful! Factoring in crime & safety, cleanliness, once you get so big, they usually become “more complicated” = a mess. Especially over here in the States. May not be the case with Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney, etc.
 

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Like who? Where? Seriously just out of curiosity… 😊

Always looking for good vacation destinations. Greenville, SC is one of the few in the States that has grown over the years and become better. Clean, safe and absolutely beautiful! Factoring in crime & safety, cleanliness, once you get so big, they usually become “more complicated” = a mess. Especially over here in the States. May not be the case with Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney, etc.
So SFA has had a population growth of 565,000 in the last 50 years from 2.775M to 3.34M and Munich a city I like and have visited a few times has grown by 309,000 from 1.275 to 1.584 in the same period. Manageable modest growth over 50 years. Here we have gone from 2.477M to 5.316M over the same period. Well over doubled and people here are so desperate to be Australias "biggest city" they love it! I've come to the conclusion that here anyway a city only needs a population of maybe 250,000 people and you will have all the infostructure and services you will ever need. Maybe, maybe medical specialists could be an issue but even towns of 100,000 here apart from that specialised medical care have everything you'll ever realistically need for a happy life. Regional areas here these days are quite cosmopolitan with really good cafes and restaurants and lets face it 99% of the stuff you need for say your car you ship in anyway. I'm dying to get out of city living I can tell you.
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Hey all, new to the forum. Ordered a copper grey GT start of May, have yet to hear anything. From NSW, just thought i'd say g'day and join the long wait.
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