The MKIV vs MKV Thread

[twntrbo03']

I was still a kid when the MkIV was available. Why not just embrace and celebrate the return of a legend...

I was a kid as well when the MKIV was for sale and remember seeing them at the dealers and drooling! I think the main issue is that everyone would have liked to see a little more of input from Toyota on this car. As it sits now, its a straight BMW car with a Toyota skin. If Toyota would have taken the GTR approach to this car, there would be way less complaining, but I understand why they went this route as well. I'm glad you are excited for this car and you are getting into a Supra! Welcome to the club HAHA

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[DesmoSD]

You're right.... The Aristo looks better

Damn skippy and the Soarer too! Back when Toyota made their own cars.

 

[kona61]

Damn skippy and the Soarer too! Back when Toyota made their own cars.

I kinda think the soarer is ugly, in my opinion.

 

[DesmoSD]

I kinda think the soarer is ugly, in my opinion.

That explains why you love the looks of the MKV then.

 

[kona61]

That explains why you love the looks of the MKV then.

I mean I don't love it per se, but I do like it more than I dislike it. I keep hearing it looks better in person, too.

 

[MA617M]

The Z30 is horrible.

Z10/Z20 ftw

 

[AsupramkvC]

I was a kid as well when the MKIV was for sale and remember seeing them at the dealers and drooling! I think the main issue is that everyone would have liked to see a little more of input from Toyota on this car. As it sits now, its a straight BMW car with a Toyota skin. If Toyota would have taken the GTR approach to this car, there would be way less complaining, but I understand why they went this route as well. I'm glad you are excited for this car and you are getting into a Supra! Welcome to the club HAHA

As a kid, all we could do was keep dreaming, or play them on video games like Need For Speed, right? But dreams do come true at some point in time. We can’t tell yet what’s the input from Toyota on this car, like what have they modified. I believe it would not just be an exact copycat from BMW. I believe it would be either Toyota could make it different from the Z4 in order for it to be more distinctive from the BMW, OR, Toyota’s involvement could be joined together with the Z4, aside from the Z4 capable of producing 382hp while the Supra only 335hp, and have everything else (particularly in relation to mechanical, electrical, electronics, underpinnings) the same. Toyota could have used the same strategy as it did with Subaru. That project shows thay incorporated their D-4S Direct Injection Ststem into Subaru’s Boxer engine. The input from Toyota on this car is still unknown. For sure each and every secret will be revealed soon, especially now that the car is almost out for sale, and sooner or later it will be open for test drives for the press and automotive journalists, then we’ll be learning more and more from their reviews.

Toyota could have taken the GTR approach and do the Supra project by themselves alone; but the problem is, it would be too expensive to make such thing. They would lose a lot of money. They would have to build a plant in Japan just to manufacture inline-6 engines for the Supra, for which is definitely not a good business case. Partnering with BMW, they may lose purists who want to drive/own pure JDM products; but the so-called “Silk Road Project”, where East meets West, is the best they could do at this point in time where most automakers are already focusing on electrifying their lineups. BMW already has the manufacturing facilities making inline-6 engines, as well as the know-how on how to make sporty & exciting RWD cars. They are one of the few automakers still manufacturing inline-6 engines. They just lack the reliability factor(which I hope Toyota helped them to do so by incorporating their own philosophy and strategy for manufacturing tried and tested reliable cars). In short, BMW has the secret formulas(inline-6, RWD, fast, sporty) Toyota needed in order to revive the Supra nameplate.

Well, when the 86/BRZ was launched back in 2012, I initially planned on getting one. Unfortunately, my plan didn’t push through. Now that Toyota has released a better car in the new Supra, I fell in love with the car even more. I still love the 86 though. For now, gotta work hard and save up just in time to be able to afford the Supra when it becomes available real soon. But I’m still keeping my fingers crossed, hoping for an inline-6 manual version. I can feel that you are planning to get a new Supra too indeed. Cheers!

 

[DesmoSD]

The Z30 is horrible.

Z10/Z20 ftw

Man you guys are trippin, it's not that bad. You guys paint it out to be ugly like a Geo Storm, Toyota Matrix or even the MKV...

Theeese is even from your boyz dawn unda mayte <-my best Australian accent

https://www.carsguide.com.au/oversteer/the-new-toyota-supra-is-actually-pretty-ugly-72607

Can't comment much on the Z10 or Z20 since they were never brought to the U.S.

 

[MA617M]

yeah ok, it's not THAT bad, but well proportioned it ain't....

It's like the Z20 design language was dragged kicking and screaming into the 90s

I reckon the overall design and proportions of the A90 is really nice - especially in person. The fussy design details and vents really hide the overall flow and shape in pics

I don't even know what a geo storm or matrix is.... thanks 'straya lol

 

[DesmoSD]

yeah ok, it's not THAT bad, but well proportioned it ain't....

It's like the Z20 design language was dragged kicking and screaming into the 90s

I reckon the overall design and proportions of the A90 is really nice - especially in person. The fussy design details and vents really hide the overall flow and shape in pics

I don't even know what a geo storm or matrix is.... thanks 'straya lol

I apologize in advance for your eyes can undo what you're about to see...

https://www.motor1.com/news/137079/worst-sports-cars-geo-storm/

 

[kona61]

I apologize in advance for your eyes can undo what you're about to see...

https://www.motor1.com/news/137079/worst-sports-cars-geo-storm/

Apparently I am blind, but I don't think its terrible. It's a lot more ugly than pretty but there are many worse cars.

 

[DesmoSD]

Apparently I am blind, but I don't think its terrible. It's a lot more ugly than pretty but there are many worse cars.

I think you are blind. Did you not remember these cars or were you too young? I remember these cars and not only was a failure marketing attempt from GM but everything from Geo was joke; Metro, Prizm and Storm.

 

[kona61]

I think you are blind. Did you not remember these cars or were you too young? I remember these cars and not only was a failure marketing attempt from GM but everything from Geo was joke; Metro, Prizm and Storm.

I'm definitely young, but I do remember seeing them. It's just one of those cars that you see but do not register.

 

[DesmoSD]

I'm definitely young, but I do remember seeing them. It's just one of those cars that you see but do not register.

Nothing tops the Pontiac Aztek but Geo's are pretty hideous cars that need to be forgotten.

 

[MA617M]

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