News, Updates, and Discussions on next-gen A100 Supra

[C-Pike]

This reminds me when they were teasing the gr corolla in official photos/commercials of toyota products hiding in the background.

It would be epic if we saw the whole line up in the next season

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[PerformanceSound]

The thread was broken off into two. I hope this one will stay on topic regarding the next Supra while the other thread will cover everything else.

Where should I post teasers or “half-baked riddles” if I want to hint at an upcoming motor (e.g., the next Supra)?

 

[Supra93]

Where should I post teasers or “half-baked riddles” if I want to hint at an upcoming motor (e.g., the next Supra)?

 

[BMWAF]

Here's some actual news. I'll let the water diviners work out what it could mean.

 

[PerformanceSound]

Here's some actual news. I'll let the water diviners work out what it could mean.

Lmao! Oh, that again? Yeah, we’ve already moved on to the next-gen Supra, my friend. Try to keep up.

 

[BMWAF]

Lmao! Oh, that again? Yeah, we’ve already moved on to the next-gen Supra, my friend. Try to keep up.

I don't like outright attacking a person but you are a dead-set idiot. So rumors, unicorns and rainbows are acceptable in this thread, but actual fucking news isn't? Fuck this thread.

 

[PerformanceSound]

I don't like outright attacking a person but you are a dead-set idiot. So rumors, unicorns and rainbows are acceptable in this thread, but actual fucking news isn't? Fuck this thread.

Wow, what a way to make a point…real poetic. Nothing says ‘I’m here to have a mature discussion’ like calling someone an idiot and throwing a tantrum. Please, tell us more about these ‘actual news’ insights delivered with such grace.

 

[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

 

[Captain_Kirk]

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/1046780

It's going to be an all-Toyota production!!!!!! Will the new Supra have a newly developed 2L inline 4-cylinder turbo + hybrid?

Five years have passed since its launch, and we are curious to know more about the next-generation Supra. It seems that instead of being jointly developed with BMW, it will be developed independently by Toyota. It's becoming more likely that we'll be able to see an all-Toyota Supra for the first time in a while!!

■The first all-Toyota Supra in a long time!?

The 2L turbo engine that will be installed has a low overall height, so the height of the engine room will also be kept low.

In 2019, current Chairman Akio Toyoda (then President) made the powerful declaration "Supra is back" at the Detroit Motor Show. It was the moment when Toyota's super sports car made a comeback after 17 years.

The current Supra was jointly developed with BMW. The platform is based on one designed by BMW, with the body design and suspension settings made specifically for the Supra, and the engine is also a straight-six engine made by BMW.

Five years have passed since its debut, and rumors of a full model change have begun to circulate. Initially, information was spreading that it was being developed as a BEV-only vehicle. However, it seems that it is becoming more likely that an engine-powered version will also be available.

■ Newly developed 2L inline 4-cylinder turbo with hybrid

The battery and motor are placed behind the seat, and the propeller shaft is made of carbon. It can also drive the rear wheels and run on the motor alone.

The key point for the next-generation model is that it will be developed independently by Toyota, rather than jointly with BMW. First of all, the engine will be a newly developed 2.0-liter inline-4 turbocharged engine, rather than the traditional inline-6 engine of the Supra.

This engine is a power unit that Toyota revealed at the Multi-Pathway Workshop held in May 2024. It is expected to achieve higher efficiency, higher output, and lower fuel consumption than conventional 2.4L inline 4-cylinder turbo engines, and is also designed for use in motorsports.

The new 2.0-liter turbo is available in two versions: one with a maximum output of 300 PS and a maximum torque of 400 Nm, and the other with a maximum output of 400 PS and a maximum torque of 500 Nm. The latter version is likely to be used in the Supra. In addition, the company is also considering using carbon-neutral fuels in addition to gasoline fuel.

Another thing we must not forget is that a parallel hybrid system will be introduced. This uses a motor generator with a clutch placed between the engine and the automatic transmission, making it possible to run the car on the motor alone depending on the situation.

Toyota will also be in charge of the body design and suspension. Although there is no exact information available about the transmission at this time, it is likely that either a 10-speed automatic or an 8-speed automatic will be installed.

When the current Supra was reborn, many car enthusiasts were overwhelmed with joy at the good news they had been waiting for. However, it is also true that somewhere in their hearts, there was a sense of dissatisfaction because it was not made entirely by Toyota.

The next-generation model is scheduled to appear around 2027. When that time comes, we will be giving a big round of applause for the birth of this completely reborn FR super sports car.

 

[KahnBB6]

https://www.motor1.com/news/747076/toyota-new-four-cylinder-turbo-engine/

Toyota's New 2.0-Liter Turbo Engine Makes Big Power
The potent four-cylinder unit can be mounted transversely and longitudinally.

According to Toyota's Chief Technology Officer Hiroki Nakajima, its new four-cylinder engine lineup is a "game changer." The upcoming powertrains have 1.5- and 2.0-liter displacements, and while they're being optimized primarily for electrification, the fun element isn't being ignored. At least, that's the case for the 2.0-liter turbo engine the engineers mounted last year in a stripped-out Lexus IS for testing purposes.

For the 2025 Tokyo Auto Salon, the four-pot was installed in a mid-engine test mule based on a GR Yaris. In the press release, Toyota didn't disclose the 2.0-liter turbo engine's output but hinted in an interview with Japanese journalists during TAS that it could make over 400 horsepower. During the Multipathway Workshop held last May, Car Watch learned from Nakajima that the target is 400 PS, which technically works out to 394 hp. However, there seems to be room for more.

At 2025 TAS, Nakajima suggested it could pack an even greater punch. In response to a reporter's question, he said, "Is it a 400-PS engine?" Of course, that could mean less than Toyota's initial estimate. However, the original version shown last year already had 400 PS, so we should expect more rather than less. A peak torque of 369 pound-feet (500 Newton meters) was estimated in 2024.

A 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo engine with more than 400 hp is not a novelty, considering AMG's "M139" makes 416 hp in the "45"-badged cars. When longitudinally mounted in the hugely controversial C63, the "M139l" produces a massive 469 hp. Heck, even the rare Mitsubishi Evo X FQ-440 MR had 440 hp a decade ago, albeit that car was chock-full of engine mods.

Nakajima told Car Watch that a lesser version of the 2.0-liter turbo engine is planned with a projected output of 300 PS (296 hp) and 295 lb-ft (400 Nm). The unrestricted four-cylinder mill will make more than 600 hp in race cars. This engine can be installed both transversely and longitudinally. Toyota already uses a 2.0-liter turbo four-banger in a sports car via BMW and its B48 engine, although not for long. The current Supra is facing imminent retirement, but the nameplate will continue. It remains to be seen whether the next-gen Supra will feature the "G20E."

Lest we forget, Toyota has consistently dropped hints about dusting off other sports car nameplates. Now and then, we keep getting signals about the Celica and/or MR2 returning. Logic tells us the "G20E" will be at the core of the company's sports car lineup. The new engine will be positioned above the three-cylinder 1.6-liter unit found in the GR Yaris and GR Corolla. The "G16E-GTS" also powers a Lexus model, so here's hoping Toyota's luxury brand will also use the larger 2.0-liter.

Since we mentioned Lexus, it’s cooking up a fun car of its own, but with a much bigger engine. The "LFR" (name not confirmed) is widely believed to rock a twin-turbo V-8 and serve as a street-legal sibling of Toyota's new GT3 race car. There's also an electric indirect successor to the LFA, previewed by the Electrified Sport concept.

Against all odds, Toyota still wants to cater to enthusiasts, even in an SUV-obsessed world and an automotive industry significantly impacted by stricter emissions regulations. Sports cars are a niche segment, but it looks like the Gazoo Racing arm wants to properly rival Mercedes-AMG, Audi Sport, and BMW M. Ideally, it will do so at a lower price, leaving Lexus to fight the higher-ends models from the German trio.

Emphasis mine.

What's interesting to me here is that the new performance turbo 2.0L four cylinder engine starts with a "G" designation just like the G16E-GTS 1.6L three cylinder turbo.

So it might be logical to assume it may be called "G20E-GTS".

Further, if both the I-3 and I-4 are of the same engine family... and there is any truth to the G16E-GTS I-3 engine being "born from division, not subtraction" as PerformanceSound previously hinted... then going with that logic if a G16E x2 I-6 or origin I-6 were to ever show up it might also carry a "G" engine family designation.

"G30E-GTS" for instance.

Well... one can hope anyway.

 

[Loco38SUP]

https://www.motor1.com/news/747076/toyota-new-four-cylinder-turbo-engine/



Emphasis mine.

What's interesting to me here is that the new performance turbo 2.0L four cylinder engine starts with a "G" designation just like the G16E-GTS 1.6L three cylinder turbo.

So it might be logical to assume it may be called "G20E-GTS".

Further, if both the I-3 and I-4 are of the same engine family... and there is any truth to the G16E-GTS I-3 engine being "born from division, not subtraction" as PerformanceSound previously hinted... then going with that logic if a G16E x2 I-6 or origin I-6 were to ever show up it might also carry a "G" engine family designation.

"G30E-GTS" for instance.

Well... one can hope anyway.

I can appreciate the wishful dreaming but Toyota has already made their design commitments to 4 cylinder turbo engines. If anything they will incorporate more hybrid options.

The MKV might just be the last I-6 we get to experience in a Supra.

-RJM

 

[PerformanceSound]

https://www.motor1.com/news/747076/toyota-new-four-cylinder-turbo-engine/



Emphasis mine.

What's interesting to me here is that the new performance turbo 2.0L four cylinder engine starts with a "G" designation just like the G16E-GTS 1.6L three cylinder turbo.

So it might be logical to assume it may be called "G20E-GTS".

Further, if both the I-3 and I-4 are of the same engine family... and there is any truth to the G16E-GTS I-3 engine being "born from division, not subtraction" as PerformanceSound previously hinted... then going with that logic if a G16E x2 I-6 or origin I-6 were to ever show up it might also carry a "G" engine family designation.

"G30E-GTS" for instance.

Well... one can hope anyway.

So, remember I said there was heavy focus on weight and rigidity? I “believe” they are focusing on chassis weight for a possible 4cyl variant (like the current A90), and the “big boy” heavier variant will come later hence the focus on chassis rigidity for that variant. Also, there should be (nothing written in stone) a new Lexus model coming ??.

 

[KahnBB6]

So, remember I said there was heavy focus on weight and rigidity? I “believe” they are focusing on chassis weight for a possible 4cyl variant (like the current A90), and the “big boy” heavier variant will come later hence the focus on chassis rigidity for that variant. Also, there should be (nothing written in stone) a new Lexus model coming ??.

This makes sense especially considering they're developing at least one 4cyl turbo + hybrid Supra MKVI trim level. It will have some extra weight from the battery pack section after all.

In non-hybrid trim levels with the 2.0L turbo the chassis will be the lightest. IF there is a version with even more cylinders there will be more weight again but the chassis development focused on keeping it light will have accounted for that.

As for the new Lexus coupe, it's very certain with this being the final year for the RC and with the LC going out as well. Both it and the MKVI sharing a platform helps to reduce the overall cost of both a bit. I'm excited to see if the new Lexus coupe will be anything like the old JZZ30 Soarer ethos of the 90's since that one and the MKIV shared a platform and were built on the same assembly lines back in the day.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

So, remember I said there was heavy focus on weight and rigidity? I “believe” they are focusing on chassis weight for a possible 4cyl variant (like the current A90), and the “big boy” heavier variant will come later hence the focus on chassis rigidity for that variant. Also, there should be (nothing written in stone) a new Lexus model coming ??.

Yup, RIP RC...

https://pressroom.lexus.com/2025-lexus-rc-and-rc-f-a-sonorous-swan-song/

 

[gymratter]

so theyre now hinting at a Mazda and Toyota partnership...

https://bestcarweb.jp/backnumber/1109712

This time, Best Car got hold of information on Mazda's new sports car. It was a follow-up to the RX-7 successor model we brought you in our August 26th issue last year... or so we thought, but it turns out it's going to be equipped with a straight-six engine!?

Why has this information surfaced now? The answer lies in the strengthening of ties with Toyota! The capital alliance between Toyota and Mazda will soon be eight years old, and in recent years the relationship has further deepened, with the two companies building and operating joint venture factories and sharing hybrid systems.

The packaging of the new Mazda sports car has suddenly emerged, and it is expected to have a FR layout with a straight-six engine. Speaking of Toyota's sports car, which has a straight-six engine and FR and is rumored to be undergoing a model change...? Read more in this magazine!!

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