The 2021 News Really Bums Me Out / Buyer's Remorse

[tadda]

The comparison plots of 2020 vs 2021 are most likely going to be very similar to the comparison done awhile ago between the Z4 and 2020 Supra...

Which align fairly closely with the comparison table Toyota released...

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[Nocturnal LE]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32461333/2021-toyota-supra-dyno-tested/

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[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

Attention all disgruntled 2020 Supra owners. Just make sure you have full coverage

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/totaled-or-nah.5265/

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/salvage-supra-registry.2829/

 

[johnny_10196]

Attention all disgruntled 2020 Supra owners. Just make sure you have full coverage + accident forgiveness

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/totaled-or-nah.5265/

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/salvage-supra-registry.2829/

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[Axix23]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32461333/2021-toyota-supra-dyno-tested/

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I am still amazed that both cars make over 400lb of tq completely factory. Lol

 

[anotherbrian]

i say cheers to toyota for continuing improvements to the vehicle.

What would you have, Toyota buy back your vehicle? Or maybe they should just freeze the car never to be improved again.

 

[Toyotawild]

 

[Axix23]

Mm

i say cheers to toyota for continuing improvements to the vehicle.

What would you have, Toyota buy back your vehicle? Or maybe they should just freeze the car never to be improved again.

another non Supra owner. Lmao. This forum is getting to be tons of non-A90 trolls...

 

[justbake]

Mm


another non Supra owner. Lmao. This forum is getting to be tons of non-A90 trolls...

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[anotherbrian]

hmmm - a quasi personal attach but you never attacked the merits of what was said.

 

[Gotfuzz]

Oh man, some of you must've not heard of the 2010 mustang GT to 2011 Mustang GT debacle. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it definitely won't be the last.

But I don't think it's really as bad as some are making it out to be, I can understand people getting flustered over the depreciation thing, but we all know cars aren't an investment, you bought the car cause you like it (Hopefully) so just drive it and have fun with it.

The more I think about it the 2010-2011 GT engine change is far worse than this Supra one.

 

[kona61]

Oh man, some of you must've not heard of the 2010 mustang GT to 2011 Mustang GT debacle. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it definitely won't be the last.

But I don't think it's really as bad as some are making it out to be, I can understand people getting flustered over the depreciation thing, but we all know cars aren't an investment, you bought the car cause you like it (Hopefully) so just drive it and have fun with it.

The more I think about it the 2010-2011 GT engine change is far worse than this Supra one.

Is that the modular to coyote? I’d have to agree that was probably the worst engine swap someone could have. Atleast in this case it’s still the exact same engine with interchangeable parts.

 

[Gotfuzz]

Is that the modular to coyote? I’d have to agree that was probably the worst engine swap someone could have. Atleast in this case it’s still the exact same engine with interchangeable parts.

Yep that was the change from the 4.6L dual overhead cam engine making 315hp to the 5.0L Quad overhead cam engine making 420hp.

It also had a different (I consider better) manual transmission, and also had the unarguable better 6R80 automatic transmission.

Coyote guys often make fun of 3V guys, and 3V guys were hugely pissed when they bought a 2010 mustang and then the 2011 came out with the same body with a much better drivetrain and an engine making 100 more HP

 

[lowlife]

Meh, no need to get upset. This happens with almost every "hot" car out there. In addition to the Mustang example above from the 10-11. Late MKV GTIs went from the FSI engine to the TSI engine. Also Toyota has done this very thing before with the FJcruiser which had a ton of yearly updates that significantly affected the values in the resale market.

It is what it is, if you care that much about depreciation you'd wait a few years and buy a Supra on CPO. No one is owed anything.

 

[digicidal]

It is what it is, if you care that much about depreciation you'd wait a few years and buy a Supra on CPO. No one is owed anything.

I've never seen depreciation that was worse than a lease once everything is factored in... it's not like 50HP cut the resale in half... the BMW drivetrain didn't change... so it's still going to depreciate fast compared to a Corolla, Camry, or Tacoma. On the other hand, it's about 500% more fun to drive than any of those three... so "Meh" is about right IMO.

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