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LOL ^ I blurred it to try to match it more with the other white car you posted there, but i didnt invest much time or effort lol; it's just not crazy long like on the gunmetal car.

more marketing BS with little substance... shocking I say. though you gotta do something to boost sales/prices I suppose.

well, they only worked together to save on costs, so they are cheap asses regardless... :D joint stage too? UGHHHHH, so good, so much money saved.

as funny as it sounds, I feel as though they may want them to debut together given they were developed side by side, but that's a just a gut feeling.

:) both cars are made in Germany/Austria, so Europe makes sense...

haha, I was just kidding for the most part, but thats how a lot of folks think... I have my Supra which is 600whp but super impractical at this point, my '03 Maxima DD which is plenty find for getting around town, and I'm going to buy an Infinit Q50 Red Sport here soon which starts off with...

I'm starting to think it may be Geneva (which is what I voted for the other day), but I wont give my reasons why; it's nothing insider related.

I wanna be fast when I get my groceries... If you're not first, you're last.

anyone else surprised to learn that the new 301hp V6 only manages 5.8 0-60s and 14.3 in the 1/4 mile? then again, that 3500lb curb weight kills I suppose. Apparently the outgoing Camry was faster than that :( my ancient DD '03 Maxima has 255hp, weighs 3100lbs, and does 0-60 in 6.3s and the 1/4...

Ahhh, well that would explain why it looks right lol

making sure I am understanding correctly here, but yes that render's proportions look spot on is what I was saying (just the front end was wrong). between the GRMN and standard car (celica?), I have no idea honestly and I'm not too confident I will have that answer at least not for a while.

the white car posted on the previous page is a pretty good rendition of the side profile and the constrained proportions, but the front end is more like the image below (if you can see through my hack job).

it definitely does look like the previous renders that Supra93 did, but as nikispeed noted the proportions are a bit more scrunched for lack of better term. It doesn't have the long, sleek profile the FT1 had and that's mostly because it has a much smaller wheelbase. the idea though was that it...

I like the 4G63, 3SGTE, 2ZZ, and F20/22C, but those are all ancient at this point. Most of the new stuff is pretty bleh...

figured we might see something soon; they are far more serious about bringing the RX line back versus anything Honda or Nissan is doing.

Those are good points, and I agree with you especially in regards to steering. The Z may be an old car but it still has plenty of positives and there is a reason it still sells.

I try to be level headed despite holding like opinions as anyone does, but you are correct in that I do not discount the contribution to the handling. I also feel it neccessary to say a comparison to other boxer motors wasn't very fair for the reasons you stated; the FA is very reliable motor...

I wont get into a pissing match over reliability, and I'll concede that I feel its much better than the EJs, but its still heavy at hell at 377lbs without trans (thats heavier than many 6cyls), and I feel a 4cyl with two heads/components is ridiculous.

They need more Mission Impossible and Jason Bourne in their lives.

I always said, and I was 110% serious, that I would have bought the car even as a Scion (rather Toyota but w/e) had it come with a traditional inline-4 or a V6. I'm not a fan of Subaru motors (unreliable, heavy, and overcomplex in my opinion).