About to pull the trigger....MKV or MKIV or GTR?

[PerformanceSound]

Well....that was a terrible choice, now you can stop trolling this forum. Enjoy the car.

Hehe...thanks man.

Not sure how you read into his post as saying Porsches have lots of reliability issues. The point he was making is all manufacturers have issues (some more than others and some more serious than others). And very often, some of these issues are overblown on the internet. Did the GTR have transmission issues? Probably. Were they all Nissan's fault? Maybe or maybe not because you have kids launching the car at every single traffic light and when things blow up, they bitch on the forums because Nissan denied their warranty.

My GTR is a 2009 and I have had this car since new. The only transmission issue I have had so far (and touch wood) is some debri got stuck in the solenoid and was fixed with a trans fluid change. Now I would say I haven't used the launch control at all on my car knowing that the transmission cannot take all that abuse. Do I wish the GR6 is built like the PDK so I can do multiple launches without breaking? Sure I do, but I have accepted the fact that I didn't pay Porsche money for the car, so there is some compromise here. Otherwise, the car has been pretty reliable to me.

The 997 GT3 had coolant pipe exploding when the car is used for track days too, so they aren't 101% bullet proof either but let's not nitpick and focus on the bigger picture?

Back to the point, if a car is used enough for tracks (whether it is drag, autox, HPDE etc.), certain OEM parts will eventually give up (more often when you start tuning and make more power). Brakes and tires are consumable and do not last forever nor they are made to last 10 track days from factory, but they will do just fine if you are just puttering around town and your backroads. Well, some smart ass is going to come in and say "well, then you are driving hard enough on the streets", but yeah, if you do wear your brakes/tires quickly from the streets , then you are just an inconsiderate asshole endangering people on the road.

Exactly this!

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[XPOTTEDPLANTX]

nice choice on the gtr! i need to get one soon. maybe after the supra is paid off. Subaru is a great daily as long as you dont modify them!! i have an 09 sti (it WAS a good daily) lol

 

[Z8AKU]

Not sure how you read into his post as saying Porsches have lots of reliability issues. The point he was making is all manufacturers have issues (some more than others and some more serious than others). And very often, some of these issues are overblown on the internet. Did the GTR have transmission issues? Probably. Were they all Nissan's fault? Maybe or maybe not because you have kids launching the car at every single traffic light and when things blow up, they bitch on the forums because Nissan denied their warranty.

It was Nissan's fault and this is a known fact in the GT-R community. Nissan advertised their blistering performance numbers of the R35 GT-R based off of the R35's launch control to obtain those sub 3 second 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times which is what sold the GT-R's to consumers who under normal circumstances would never buy a Nissan. Nissan has known about the transmission issues since 2010 as well as the bell house issue and still they have not corrected the problem 10 years later, and instead continue to place the same faulty parts in each new model car every year. No idea why you refuse to accept these facts and continue to make excuses for Nissan's faulty engineering here.

 

[white_turbo]

It was Nissan's fault and this is a known fact in the GT-R community. Nissan advertised their blistering performance numbers of the R35 GT-R based off of the R35's launch control to obtain those sub 3 second 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times which is what sold the GT-R's to consumers who under normal circumstances would never buy a Nissan. Nissan has known about the transmission issues since 2010 as well as the bell house issue and still they have not corrected the problem 10 years later, and instead continue to place the same faulty parts in each new model car every year. No idea why you refuse to accept these facts and continue to make excuses for Nissan's faulty engineering here.

It is mind boggling that you take everything I said as absolute, just like your extreme comment on the car. Your entire argument is focused on one thing and one thing only. You also ignore the fact that they have made changes to the transmission in 2012 and the programming of the launch control, so it is not that they entirely ignore the issue (maybe just not up to your personal standard). The only thing I am refusing to accept is your one-sided opinionated comment on Nissan. I never said Nissan was not at fault, hence, the word "probably" in my response. You focus on one aspect of the car, and dismiss everything good about it, so your comment is clearly coming from hate and not an honest subjective opinion. It also appears to me that all you care about is making big hp, straight-line performance, so is apparent that you care nothing else what any car can do other than these two categories.

It was fun reading your comments, the OP has bought his car, so there is nothing more to say or argue with you.

 

[PerformanceSound]

It is mind boggling that you take everything I said as absolute, just like your extreme comment on the car. Your entire argument is focused on one thing and one thing only. You also ignore the fact that they have made changes to the transmission in 2012 and the programming of the launch control, so it is not that they entirely ignore the issue (maybe just not up to your personal standard). The only thing I am refusing to accept is your one-sided opinionated comment on Nissan. I never said Nissan was not at fault, hence, the word "probably" in my response. You focus on one aspect of the car, and dismiss everything good about it, so your comment is clearly coming from hate and not an honest subjective opinion. It also appears to me that all you care about is making big hp, straight-line performance, so is apparent that you care nothing else what any car can do other than these two categories.

It was fun reading your comments, the OP has bought his car, so there is nothing more to say or argue with you.

You are correct again....Nissan has made many revisions to sub-components that led to a lot of the failures of main components. One that comes to mind is launch control. There are multiple versions of launch control because it was initially the reason people ruined their transmissions. After the software revisions for the launch control, the number of transmission failures dramatically was reduced.

I haven’t purchased the R35 yet, but am working on negotiating the price. The R35 is my definitive choice though. For folks who haven’t driven an R35 GTR yet, I highly recommend they at least drive one before making a big purchase....it really is pretty awesome.

 

[Z8AKU]

It is mind boggling that you take everything I said as absolute, just like your extreme comment on the car. Your entire argument is focused on one thing and one thing only. You also ignore the fact that they have made changes to the transmission in 2012 and the programming of the launch control, so it is not that they entirely ignore the issue (maybe just not up to your personal standard). The only thing I am refusing to accept is your one-sided opinionated comment on Nissan. I never said Nissan was not at fault, hence, the word "probably" in my response. You focus on one aspect of the car, and dismiss everything good about it, so your comment is clearly coming from hate and not an honest subjective opinion. It also appears to me that all you care about is making big hp, straight-line performance, so is apparent that you care nothing else what any car can do other than these two categories.

I'm well aware of the changes that occurred in 2012-2013 on the GT-R. They only upgraded the shift forks and shims in the GR6 on DBA models and that hasn't been revised since 2013. Those upgrades didn't ward off the plagued issues from prior, they only prolonged the inevitable. Even a 2020 GT-R has the same transmission and bell house that a 2013 model does that's my point. Transmission heating issues and failing brakes were never addressed and are still happening on all models.

No, it's not my opinion, it's a FACT that can be corroborated by hundreds of cars of various owners spread out on many forums on the net. I owned 2 R35 GT-Rs, a 2009 (CBA) Super Silver in 2013 FBO/E85 and a 2012 (DBA) Black Edition in 2015 with intakes, down pipes 100 octane tune. I had plenty of real seat time in both. I drove thousands of miles in each stock before modifying them and rarely used launch control initially. Used them both for general daily driving, long distance road trips, drag racing, road course and local rallies and group car cruises in some very high risk terrains. I think my thoughts on the GT-R more than qualifies than some mere bias opinion or unjust bashing of the car for the sake of senseless argument here.

If I was only concerned with making high horse power then I would have built both GT-Rs to 1,200-1,500whp builds but I didn't. I instead chose to add a little more power that I thought would be well within threshold of the GR6's and VR38DETT's capabilities. Adding 100whp with minor bolt-ons and a tune isn't big power just so you know. Yet, even before I added power to my 2009 CBA it had issues just driving it normally.

Lastly, Nissan are the one for making the straight line hype such a big deal for the GT-R remember? All the ads back in 2009 and up about their new 0-60 times and their new HP ratings going up each year from 485 to 530 to 565 to 600hp. When did Nissan EVER advertise a GT-R for Auto Cross? How about showing a family riding along in a GT-R to an outing? I never saw those commercials either. Funny huh? So, one trick pony begins to fit the shoe a bit more now huh?

Even Nissan's claim to fame for the 2015 R35 GT-R Nismo was on Nurburgring with a boasted time of 7:08.679 minute lap. We all know that Nismo model wasn't stock either.

I'll let you argue with yourself now in cyberspace as I'm done here debating a GT-R topic on a MKV Supra forum.

 

[white_turbo]

I am sorry, I was going to really leave you alone but this is too good not to share and let people decide how they want to value your opinion in this forum.
https://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/114605-1000hp-build-on-91-pump-gas/page-3

Seems like any time either someone disagree with you or trying to give you advice, you just go ape-shit because of your ego. I stand corrected about you and what you want in your car, it's all about the big hp and straight-line performance.

 

[white_turbo]

Just for shits and giggles, here is another one:
https://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topi...tock-block-turbos-trans-on-91-pump-gas/page-1

Now, I would be fair, people were kind of nitpicking on the choice of words in your title, but instead of understanding where they are coming from, you went nuts and start arguing and justifying about it.

Sorry moderator and OP if I get this thread locked before Lokki does.

 

[PerformanceSound]

Come on fellas, no need to argue over this....the decision has been made and no matter what haters say at this point, it means nothing to me as I have already decided on my next purchase. I have followed the R35 for quite some time, I also have friends who own them....so I know realistically what they can and can't do along with their limits. The internet unfortunately is full of alot of bad info and what I have found to be a good solid source is reputable tuners for that specific car (i.e., AMS for GTR's, SP for Supra's, etc..).

 

[MA617M]

I just want to add that my A80 has zero rattles and squeaks. It was quieter than my C63 AMG on the inside, and on par with the A90 (probably even less plastic squeaks tbh)

So yeah, they don't all do that

If you need any transmission upgrades for your R35, let me know - we offer 3 options at work (Stage 1, Stage 2, and then extreme haha)

 

[PerformanceSound]

I just want to add that my A80 has zero rattles and squeaks. It was quieter than my C63 AMG on the inside, and on par with the A90 (probably even less plastic squeaks tbh)

So yeah, they don't all do that

If you need any transmission upgrades for your R35, let me know - we offer 3 options at work (Stage 1, Stage 2, and then extreme haha)

I will take any performance parts for the GTR from Australia with open arms....after all, the Aussie's mastered the GTR program.

 

[MA617M]

Hehe, our workshop R35 is on the hoist atm waiting for the installation a new prototype product for those in the 1200-1600hp range

 

[Z8AKU]

Now, I would be fair, people were kind of nitpicking on the choice of words in your title, but instead of understanding where they are coming from, you went nuts and start arguing and justifying about it.

Sorry moderator and OP if I get this thread locked before Lokki does.

I used facts, facts don't need to be justified that's why they're called facts. You have not refuted anything about the known problems of the GT-R that I brought up, and have given no sensible argument here worthy of debate. Your rebuttal is to share a 5 year old forum thread from another site in hopes of what Gary? To discombobulate the readers here from the fact that you don't know jack shit about your own car? Thank you for the free publicity. You're just making yourself look even more ignorant and quite frankly you're coming off as a troll by attempting to instigate a flame war here by spreading other unrelated forum threads here.

While I'm on it why are you on this forum when you don't even own an A90 Supra? Perhaps you should be on the GT-R forum since that's what you own and drive huh? LMAO

 

[kissmyrs]

wow....some of these responses


Great choice on the R35 man, Ive owned 3 with no problems 2 FB0 e85 and one built to close 9XXawhp/ hands down one of the Greatest Platforms ever

 

[PerformanceSound]

wow....some of these responses


Great choice on the R35 man, Ive owned 3 with no problems 2 FB0 e85 and one built to close 9XXawhp/ hands down one of the Greatest Platforms ever

Yeah, everyone I have ever spoken to who owns or has owned an R35 has said nothing but great things about it. I always thought they were over exaggerating, but after spending some time in one.......I believe everything they have said. To think a car is that capable for just over $100k is mind boggling.

I did enjoy all three cars very much, and the MKV is a blast to drive. It was a hard decision because although the GTR is a great car, it really was a tough decision between it and the MKV.

Btw, is that your MKV in your avatar? If so, that is a great shot!....my favorite angle of the MKV!

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