Achieving 750WHP+ Without Port Injection - A Plug and Play Solution for 2020+ Supras

[Jesse DaBears]

This is Daw E50 similar times to pump problem is in Canada it’s cold and I for the life
Of me can’t grip as well as having the stock wheels and tires don’t help at all . I spin in 5th . I sold my wheels and tires because I am getting a 18X11 setup to run 305 squared .

Based on KMH you are around 600 whp which is definitely sold. Did tuner say it cant be turned up anymore?

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[Awad]

Based on KMH you are around 600 whp which is definitely sold. Did tuner say it cant be turned up anymore?

Yes this was base map run on draggy

 

[Jesse DaBears]

I'm sitting here still waiting for the argument of DI is more efficient than port injection to come up....

2 cars, same mods, one on full DI, one on port + DI, I bet the full DI car makes better power.

Wait you bet the full DI car makes more power than Port +DI?

 

[Awad]

Based on KMH you are around 600 whp which is definitely sold. Did tuner say it cant be turned up anymore?

Currently we are at about 26 PSI so with the revision it should be more and then the only problem I have is intake manifold as I don’t think it’s a good idea to do anymore than 32 ish psi on stock intake manifold

 

[Jesse DaBears]

Currently we are at about 26 PSI so with the revision it should be more and then the only problem I have is intake manifold as I don’t think it’s a good idea to do anymore than 32 ish psi on stock intake manifold

If you are on a DAW i dont know if you really want to push over 32 psi regardless. 32 PSI should get you to 700+whp if the fueling can hold up.

You going to run Full e85 im assuming for that.

 

[razorlab]

This is Daw E50 similar times to pump problem is in Canada it’s cold and I for the life
Of me can’t grip as well as having the stock wheels and tires don’t help at all . I spin in 5th . I sold my wheels and tires because I am getting a 18X11 setup to run 305 squared .

What is peak boost currently?

EDIT, nevermind, see you stated 26psi.

Are you are going to track this setup with the stock intake manifold?

 

[Awad]

What is peak boost currently?

EDIT, nevermind, see you stated 26psi.

Are you are going to track this setup with the stock intake manifold?

We have a lot more to play with waiting on next revision to see if it’s too much but as of now 25.5-26

 

[razorlab]

We have a lot more to play with waiting on next revision to see if it’s too much but as of now 25.5-26

So, my question still stands even more now. You aren't going to track this setup with the stock intake manifold, right?

Your IAT is already 129F on a single pull in cold weather.

 

[Awad]

What is peak boost currently?

EDIT, nevermind, see you stated 26psi.

Are you are going to track this setup with the stock intake manifold?

I think I will I don’t heatsoak but I haven’t pushed this power so it will be interesting to see next season how car temps are with power levels . Worst comes to worst and I see a need for it I’ll install the intake manifold.

 

[razorlab]

I think I will I don’t heatsoak

Uh, take another look at your log.

 

[Jesse DaBears]

I think I will I don’t heatsoak but I haven’t pushed this power so it will be interesting to see next season how car temps are with power levels . Worst comes to worst and I see a need for it I’ll install the intake manifold.

The stock intake mani sucks. You are definitely already heat soaked on a single pull. I dont know how you turny bois keep your car cool enough when making 700 whp.

 

[Awad]

Uh, take another look at your log.

I see that , I explained that I haven’t tracked this setup . Before on stock turbo stage 2 OTS with 94 I tracked and did a total of 33 laps in a day and every session was around 5 laps . I measured the amount of heat soak effect by seeing how my top speed got affected and I was constantly doing 203-204 KM/H .

 

[razorlab]

I see that , I explained that I haven’t tracked this setup . Before on stock turbo stage 2 OTS with 94 I tracked and did a total of 33 laps in a day and every session was around 5 laps . I measured the amount of heat soak effect by seeing how my top speed got affected and I was constantly doing 203-204 KM/H .

Don't need to track it yet to know that 129F on a single gear pull, in cool weather, with 25.5 psi is going to go to 160F easily in one lap on the track.

129F is already taking power out unless the tuner is just zeroing out the safeguard.

 

[Awad]

Don't need to track it yet to know that 129F on a single gear pull, in cool weather, with 25.5 psi is going to go to 160F easily in one lap on the track.

129F is already taking power out unless the tuner is just zeroing out the safeguard.

That’s a good point let’s wait and see how everything looks once finalized . But I think that is a fair point and I think I need to start looking for an intake manifold XD.

 

[Evolution]

Wait you bet the full DI car makes more power than Port +DI?

Let me clarify that statement. Port injection pretty much has no limitaion to how much power can be made. For us wierd people, something like 600whp is more than enough to go "around" the track. So lets say a car makes 600whp with port injection. Take that car, tune it DI only and I bet it makes more power.

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