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Well, this happens every now and then. Should had seen the threads during the time when the car was still in development. Sooo much "factual analysis" (Opinions) flying around.
 

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@Z8AKU You know you can maybe e-mail yourself Toyota or this german company about your clams right?
No major company will disclose their business relationships, divulge their contacts, sourcing and/or their trade secrets and confidential information to the random public contacting them via their general email no less. Most of these companies are under very strict NDA and NCC agreements with their clients due to the threats of design patent infringement or copyright infringement. It's not uncommon for a competitor to try and attempt to obtain information using stealth methods so that they can gain an edge against their competition.

Your arguments have no basis because from my understanding you don't understand how the internet works. Because an article is written 2007 does not mean it is real info, i mean if you search automotive sites right now you will see a "car story/rumour" and then 1 hour later all the other car sites have copied it and added minor stuff of their own but that does not mean that the original story is true just because it was kinda laundered by all the other websites.
Sure, anyone can write a blog post or create a fictitious story and post it online, and yes it can be spread and even go viral. Generally a fictitious blog or post will be challenged and debunked within a few days or even weeks of it being shared though. Take for instance blog posts about certain celebrities that have been announced to have suddenly died, when in fact they're still alive and well. Claims like that are debunked and silenced fairly quickly these days.

However, in this case, we have articles from magazines, automotive forums, blogs and other various platforms with the same information that was shared over 15 years ago and is still being shared today in 2020. The only challenge to the information about Johann Krause engineering firm having had a part in the development and the engineering in the 2JZ-GTE with Toyota in 1991 is 1 post from 2011 on the Supra Forums. 1 post to challenge the validity of the 2JZ-GTE having been co-developed and engineered by an outside source and the challenge came 13 years after the release of the first MKIV Supra? Why wasn't the rumor laid to rest earlier if it was in fact a rumor? ;)

The assertion that someone called or emailed Johann Krause in 2011 is false due to the fact that Johann Krause had been out of business for 5 years prior to allegedly being contacted for questioning by someone regarding their involvement with Toyota and the 2JZ-GTE motor. Even if someone did try and contact Johann Krause when they were still in business prior to 2006, I'm 100% certain that the individual would not have obtained any information at all as I have clearly demonstrated why companies won't discuss their business with outside people or outside businesses who are unaffiliated in my first response atop here.

Neither Toyota nor Johann Krause have went public to denounce or deny such claims of their collaboration on the 2JZ-GTE prior to 2006 and still even today in 2020. There is far more evidence that leads me to believe that the claim of Johann Krause firm having been part of the development and engineering aspects of the 2JZ-GTE in 1991 are somewhat factual. Both company profiles are public and it's well established what both companies do.

The 2JZ fans will just have to suck it up and know that their motor has German DNA in it LOL.[/QUOTE]
 
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I'm talking to a wall. I'm saying your sources arent good enough to support your claim. Get better ones and maybe the people involved will listen to you. A70TTR atleast works for toyota and has had some accurate information. His words have more legitimacy than some random person. Using blog posts as a source. I'm done. I don't really care where the engine is from I drive fast cars that's all that matters.
Your efforts to countervail are feeble at best. You're either too obtuse are just plain stupid to comprehend my posts. Your rebuttals are moot as well. You're like a dog trying to find a corner in a round room to piss in. Yes, trust A70TTR because he works for Toyota. Do you also believe in UFOS and Alien abduction as well?

I'm done responding to you here.
 

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Please no, we've had the conversation till blue in the face. You guys can keep this one.;)
Just staying subbed until z8Apu starts citing infowars.com for his lizard people defense creams.
Infowars? Matt Calderone were you fed paint chips as a child? This debate has been ongoing, yet there has never been a legitimate and final answer has there? Most people are just so stupid and ignorant they will accept any answer and not take the time or do their due diligence about fact checking multiple sources and checking again. It's no surprise how the Government is able to dupe so many sheep year after year. I told myself never to get back on any automotive forums again. Now I remember why LMAO. You people are amusing.
 

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There's more evidence of alien abductions than Johann Krause working on the 2JZ.
:dance:

Literally made my afternoon. :lol::lol:


With regard to Toyota or JK never refuting the claims..... maybe they don't have a compulsive need to prove ppl wrong on the internet? Especially regarding a claim that was made years after the Supra and the 2JZ finished production.... hence having no real bearing on their business? NVM, Gone again.
 

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With regard to Toyota or JK never refuting the claims..... maybe they don't have a compulsive need to prove ppl wrong on the internet? Especially regarding a claim that was made years after the Supra and the 2JZ finished production.... hence having no real bearing on their business? NVM, Gone again.
The original article was in a published tuner magazine sometime in 1998 I remember reading it, then I saw it again posted online around 2001. It might have been Import Tuner Magazine if I recall correctly. The internet in 1998 had AOL dial-up service provider, email, instant messaging, and web browser at that time so, Toyota and Johann Krause could have responded to the published article back in 1998 but I didn't see any contest to the article. I didn't hear or read a contest or challenge even after the release of the F&F movie in 2001. Magically in 2011 someone posts with absolutely no evidence that the article and story are all false? Yeah sure whatever LMFAO
 

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I think this Instagram xxxxx.....

...Fell back off the wagon..
 

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I think this Instagram xxxxx...Fell back off the wagon..
Takes a coward to insult a man's struggle with addictions from behind anonymity on a forum no less. You've been reported!
 

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Takes a coward to insult a man's struggle with addictions from behind anonymity on a forum no less. You've been reported!
oh thats you? Agreed thats fucked. I didnt realize things were going that way. not cool with me
 

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hey Z8AKU :) I'm in Mesa...since you're not busy driving your LC or Supra and would rather fight over something dumb on the interwebz, can I come over and borrow either one for a few hours? I promise I will be enjoying them to the fullest!
 

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