CJ-
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I don’t know about most of you but I really don’t care who likes and doesn’t like (or pretends to not like) the car.
I like it...if I didn’t, I wouldn’t buy one.
I like it...if I didn’t, I wouldn’t buy one.
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As we mentioned months ago, though, swapping an engine is not a simple as measuring to make sure it fits and plopping it in. You would have to make a 25 year old engine play nice with the suspension, the rear diff, the transmission, the gauges, the DME, etc. Not to mention the fact that even if you managed to make them work together, the tremendous time and money it would take to get to a even near-polished result.^^ You know... I love my 2JZ daily car. It's not making 1,000whp but it's brilliant. It's hard not to love any car that has a boosted JZ engine swapped into it.
That having been said it seems kind of like a waste to just rip out the B58C in his MKV before its even been broken in JUST because he doesn't want to even try making big power with it. Tuner outfits are already fast developing parts for it. I'm not saying a 2JZ isn't the end-all-be-all answer because it usually is but... I don't know... maybe at least TRY modifying the new engine and try learning a new engine ECU and architecture first?
His comment about swapping to a manual transmission though... that I've got no criticism at all there. Toyota really needed one at launch.
Well maybe his overall view about the MKV still stands. He did praise the B58 and the current tuning that we have seen so I wouldn't be surprised if he's just saying he'll swap in a 2JZ just to stir the pot. I don't follow him much, even though I did see him at Targa Trophy 2018 here in San Diego. Is he even a car modding type of dude? He seems like Shmee and just keeps changing cars and never builds any.^^ You know... I love my 2JZ daily car. It's not making 1,000whp but it's brilliant. It's hard not to love any car that has a boosted JZ engine swapped into it.
That having been said it seems kind of like a waste to just rip out the B58C in his MKV before its even been broken in JUST because he doesn't want to even try making big power with it. Tuner outfits are already fast developing parts for it. I'm not saying a 2JZ isn't the end-all-be-all answer because it usually is but... I don't know... maybe at least TRY modifying the new engine and try learning a new engine ECU and architecture first?
His comment about swapping to a manual transmission though... that I've got no criticism at all there. Toyota really needed one at launch.
imagine getting it serviced, that's a pain in the neck for ToyotaPutting a 2jz into this bmw is doing the 2jz a disservice. The car isn’t worthy
Not leaking yet!like your leaking bmw
Facebook groups are just as bad. Seems like the people with busted SCs/MK3s on godspeed coilovers have the loudest opinionsIt is quite comical to me how there are a few very active members of supraforums.com that spend a good amount of time commenting on every single MKV-related post on that website with value-adding comments like, "Not a Supra!" They spend a decent amount of their time to go out of their way to do this, and even occasionally come over to this neck of the woods to remind us how much they dislike this car. It is particularly humorous to me because most of these are folks who have never worked at / for / with Toyota, they don't speak Japanese, and yet they hold themselves up as being the gatekeepers of anything "Supra" and credit themselves with the success of the car. In reality, the MKIV was a commercial failure (due to poor marketing, an exchange rate where the yen was stronger than the dollar, people at that time being unwilling to spend the equivalent of $80k today on a Toyota, and a number of other reasons). The only situation in which I could ever see myself being that upset with a car is if I was forced to but it at gunpoint despite really, really not liking it.
100%. Just getting another engine system swapped in isn't the same thing as getting every little detail, electrical quirk, all CANBUS messages talking correctly, little custom logic board controllers for various functions talking to the OEM chassis hardware correctly including the modern digital dashboard, etc.As we mentioned months ago, though, swapping an engine is not a simple as measuring to make sure it fits and plopping it in. You would have to make a 25 year old engine play nice with the suspension, the rear diff, the transmission, the gauges, the DME, etc. Not to mention the fact that even if you managed to make them work together, the tremendous time and money it would take to get to a even near-polished result.
I'm not on any Facebook groups for MKIV's, MKIII's or SC's but what I have heard about them doesn't catch my interest. It's social media vs a conventional forum where you can easily search for relevant threads and information sometimes a decade or two old to reference a technical solution you may be looking for or where new information, news and technical solutions can be easily found.Facebook groups are just as bad. Seems like the people with busted SCs/MK3s on godspeed coilovers have the loudest opinions