Coilovers recommendations

[SnowCr4sh]

I bought the kw clubsport. It doesn't come with bearings but I think it was the best option for me.

I can sell you KW Clubsports 2 way brand new for 2k shipped. And if you ask about warranty? No KW does not give warranty

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[MR_X]

I have ohlins and I really like them. They are divorced but the rear shock has the ride height adjustability.

 

[krumpir]

I have ohlins and I really like them. They are divorced but the rear shock has the ride height adjustability.

I’m installing my Ohlins next week, did you need any unique tools for the install, also any hiccups?

 

[MR_X]

I’m installing my Ohlins next week, did you need any unique tools for the install, also any hiccups?

It was pretty straight forward. The only hard part was getting the knuckles to spread to get the OEM shocks out. Word if advice though, Ohlins doesn’t specify which spring goes in the front vs the rear. USUALLY the thicker ones would go in the front. Not in this case.

 

[krumpir]

It was pretty straight forward. The only hard part was getting the knuckles to spread to get the OEM shocks out. Word if advice though, Ohlins doesn’t specify which spring goes in the front vs the rear. USUALLY the thicker ones would go in the front. Not in this case.

I had mine assembled by 3DM so luckily I don’t have to fuss with which spring is which. But I heard torquing the front end link can be tricky, did you use any special tool?

 

[MR_X]

Nope

 

[Evolution]

It was pretty straight forward. The only hard part was getting the knuckles to spread to get the OEM shocks out. Word if advice though, Ohlins doesn’t specify which spring goes in the front vs the rear. USUALLY the thicker ones would go in the front. Not in this case.

To spread them (next time obviously), use an Allen wrench. Get one that just fits in the gap, twist it a bit and it should stay there with it open.

 

[MR_X]

To spread them (next time obviously), use an Allen wrench. Get one that just fits in the gap, twist it a bit and it should stay there with it open.

I have the tool for it (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M6GHM93/ref=cm_sw_r_api_i_64ZPB70G7PT6NAKWDQ0G_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) but it wasn’t spreading it enough. Ended up using 2 7 or 8mm Allen’s to get them spread. Something like this would have been better though. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1PGN7N7/ref=cm_sw_r_api_i_DKSWYWGG1DY8Z8XKKPJW_0

 

[94boosted]

Debating on getting a set of affordable coilovers for this season, I want something with top hats already included and something that's already pre-assembled for ease of installation (that removes the Bilsteins and Ohlins as an option for me). There seem to be 3 options that are reasonably priced, arranged from least to most expensive.

S3
Toyota Supra (A90) (2019+) Coilovers

Red Shift
RedShift Competition 1W Coilovers 2019- Toyota Supra (A90) [C-165-COMP – RedShiftMotorsports

Fortune 510
Toyota Supra (A90) 2020+ - 510 Series Coilovers – Fortune Auto

The plan is to do 5-6 track days, a few autocross events, and a little bit of street driving. I don't want anything that will lower the ride height much (bumpy roads and a steep driveway to my garage). I also don't plan on doing many other suspension mods to the car beyond the coilovers.

There isn't much info on the S3's or the Red Shifts specifically, does anyone have experience with those two? I've read some pretty good reviews on the Fortune 510's.

 

[razorlab]

The redshift's are just BC coilovers. Def avoid those if you like actual good handling.

S3 trash.

510's are okay.

Personally, I would get Ohlins and add camber plates. It's super easy

 

[94boosted]

The redshift's are just BC coilovers. Def avoid those if you like actual good handling.

S3 trash.

510's are okay.

Personally, I would get Ohlins and add camber plates. It's super easy

I thought Red Shift did some custom valving and springs to make them better than an off-the-shelf BC Racing unit.

With Ohlins I thought there was some custom machining required to get the camber plates to work? Or is that not the case with the Verus plates? Not to mention once you add in the camber plates and Ohlins they're no longer a "budget" option.

The other affordable options are no good (HKS, Revel, RS-R, etc.)?

 

[Traxion]

FA510 or keep saving your money for a little bit longer. I do personally think not getting camber plates is a massive disservice to yourself if you are getting suspension. I'd rather stay on stock suspension than get anything worse than FA510 or Ohlins.

I would definitely not make being preassembled a deal breaker. This is the first car I've wrenched on and if you're already planning on installing the suspension yourself, then assembling the shock is 10 times easier than the actual installation. A big tip is to unscrew the fender liner at the top of the wheel well and peel it back. It gives you way more space to pull out the strut from the wheel well and also to push the strut back in after you swap them out. If you were already planning on paying someone to install then it shouldn't make much of a difference in cost anyway.

 

[94boosted]

FA510 or keep saving your money for a little bit longer. I do personally think not getting camber plates is a massive disservice to yourself if you are getting suspension. I'd rather stay on stock suspension than get anything worse than FA510 or Ohlins.

I would definitely not make being preassembled a deal breaker. This is the first car I've wrenched on and if you're already planning on installing the suspension yourself, then assembling the shock is 10 times easier than the actual installation. A big tip is to unscrew the fender liner at the top of the wheel well and peel it back. It gives you way more space to pull out the strut from the wheel well and also to push the strut back in after you swap them out. If you were already planning on paying someone to install then it shouldn't make much of a difference in cost anyway.

Good to know, thanks Traxion. Yes having a camber plate is a must. Simply for the ease of swapping these in and subsequently swapping back to stock when I sell the car, I did want something that's already pre-assembled with the camber plates. I'm more used to wrenching on American cars but I did swap out the swivel bearings (knuckles) on my Supra to gain a tiny bit of negative camber (had to keep the car SCCA BS legal).

With the 510's are the default springs ok or is it a must to step up to the Swift springs?

 

[Traxion]

You can assemble the shock outside the car and install them into the knuckle fully assembled and swing them up into the shock tower by using the fender liner trick I mentioned so you'll still be able to hot swap back in the stock ones.

If you are considering FA510 get in touch with @speedingsafely. He sells them and can also make recommendations on spring rates.

 

[94boosted]

You can assemble the shock outside the car and install them into the knuckle fully assembled and swing them up into the shock tower by using the fender liner trick I mentioned so you'll still be able to hot swap back in the stock ones.

If you are considering FA510 get in touch with @speedingsafely. He sells them and can also make recommendations on spring rates.

Thanks Traxion!

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