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So, have had the Yaris from new in '21. 70,000km. Supra for ten days and 3200km. Always was going to keep both, thinking where they fit in. Some early observations.
Getting in and out. Yaris>>>Supra, no need to say more.
Comfort Supra>Yaris. In comfort mode, that is. smoother ride and less road noise. Nothing badly wrong with the Yaris, both have good supportive seats.
Luggage - Yaris can take a set of wheels with rear seat down. Harry Metcalfe calls his a van with the rear seat always down. Supra can take all the luggage we want for touring. Don't play golf so set of clubs irrelevant but looks tricky in both.
Space for odds and ends - not great in the Supra, as expected, Yaris a little better but still has awkward cupholders by your elbow.
Rear seat passengers - well adults have travelled short distances in the back of the Yaris. 8 year old complained she couldn't see out. Supra - nil obvs.
Front seat passengers - no grab handles in the Supra. Slightly surprising omission.
Controls - nothing to add to what others say, I like the rotating controller in the Supra, less reaching for touchscreen and cubby fingermarks. had similar in a Mazda previously and like it, there are other opinions. Reassuringly loud cling for the indicators in the Supra.
Steering wheel - Supra steering wheel is curiously thin on top and thick elsewhere, I like thinner myself. I think 9will measure) that the Yaris wheel is smaller but thick.
Pedals - Supra > Yaris. Placement of pedals in the Yaris ,making heel and toe tricky ha been written about. On the other hand may choose not to wear the wide Skechers driving the Supra.
Yaris has a proper handbrake for tight corners ;-)
Engine - both great in their own way. Supra drives like a straight six with a flat torque curve. Yaris has more low down torque than you would expect. Both come on song up the rev range (not yet explored much in the Supra).
Gearbox - Supra has the slightly rubbery feel I expected. Yaris is crisper with the exception of 2nd gear which can be a little balky. Known issue and apparently attention to engine mounts and cables makes it better. Supra I expect will get cleaner with use.
Driving generally - Yaris sticks to the road like glue with PS4s tyres. 4WD does what it should and does it well. Steering a little dull on the turn in though. Supra, steering feels sharper and generally cleaner. Have not yet explored grip, as I expected so far.
One thing, I was driving Supra yesterday after a shower and when the wheels hit a puddle on one side of the road I felt it through the steering. Probably a plus, nothing scary but noticeable. Living in the tropics we get a lot of rain and the Yaris has been the preferred car in the wet on tarmac. Probably will continue to be. Its a rally car (sort of) after all.
Reactions on the road - not many people spot the Yaris as being anything special. So far the Supra has had attention from others, including people in Utes and P platers who want to drag away from the lights - I let them get on with it. Bestwas a chat with a young lad, aroudn 10, who started off saying he hadn't seen many and was up on the technical detail.
So, two great cars, both fun and competent. I'll probably use the Yaris as daily driver round town, smaller and so on. Though it has a slightly longer wheelbase than the Supra which is interesting. Pretty much a wheel at each corner.
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There's nothing quite like being wrong. 😂

Sorry but the GR Yaris is a heap of shit. The little 3 cylinder engine drinks MORE than the straight 6 whilst providing less power; It looks awful from pretty much every angle; The interior is typical cheap ass Toyota and you can't even sit comfortably in the passenger seat due to it not being height adjustable.

I'd rather daily something practical and much better, like a Type R. Oh wait.. I do.
 

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There's nothing quite like being wrong. 😂

Sorry but the GR Yaris is a heap of shit. The little 3 cylinder engine drinks MORE than the straight 6 whilst providing less power; It looks awful from pretty much every angle; The interior is typical cheap ass Toyota and you can't even sit comfortably in the passenger seat due to it not being height adjustable.

I'd rather daily something practical and much better, like a Type R. Oh wait.. I do.
The GR Yaris shit sll over ur old ass NA CTR. Have you driven the gen 2 220kw version? The power delivery is intense and pulls all the way to redline.

Take your MHD S2+ Supra to a track and you will see how unbalance your car is without suspension and tyres reworked. Any well driven GRY running on a decent set of 200TW will be able to overtake your Supra at tte corners because you simply cannot put down power without nannies. It will also out brake you because the car is 200kg lighter and came with a set of track ready big ass Brembo brakes. Even the stock tyres are PS4S which is better than your current Supra’s standard archaic PSS.

i like the GRY so much that I have placed an order for the new aero version while keeping the Supra of course.
 

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So, have had the Yaris from new in '21. 70,000km. Supra for ten days and 3200km. Always was going to keep both, thinking where they fit in. Some early observations.
Getting in and out. Yaris>>>Supra, no need to say more.
Comfort Supra>Yaris. In comfort mode, that is. smoother ride and less road noise. Nothing badly wrong with the Yaris, both have good supportive seats.
Luggage - Yaris can take a set of wheels with rear seat down. Harry Metcalfe calls his a van with the rear seat always down. Supra can take all the luggage we want for touring. Don't play golf so set of clubs irrelevant but looks tricky in both.
Space for odds and ends - not great in the Supra, as expected, Yaris a little better but still has awkward cupholders by your elbow.
Rear seat passengers - well adults have travelled short distances in the back of the Yaris. 8 year old complained she couldn't see out. Supra - nil obvs.
Front seat passengers - no grab handles in the Supra. Slightly surprising omission.
Controls - nothing to add to what others say, I like the rotating controller in the Supra, less reaching for touchscreen and cubby fingermarks. had similar in a Mazda previously and like it, there are other opinions. Reassuringly loud cling for the indicators in the Supra.
Steering wheel - Supra steering wheel is curiously thin on top and thick elsewhere, I like thinner myself. I think 9will measure) that the Yaris wheel is smaller but thick.
Pedals - Supra > Yaris. Placement of pedals in the Yaris ,making heel and toe tricky ha been written about. On the other hand may choose not to wear the wide Skechers driving the Supra.
Yaris has a proper handbrake for tight corners ;-)
Engine - both great in their own way. Supra drives like a straight six with a flat torque curve. Yaris has more low down torque than you would expect. Both come on song up the rev range (not yet explored much in the Supra).
Gearbox - Supra has the slightly rubbery feel I expected. Yaris is crisper with the exception of 2nd gear which can be a little balky. Known issue and apparently attention to engine mounts and cables makes it better. Supra I expect will get cleaner with use.
Driving generally - Yaris sticks to the road like glue with PS4s tyres. 4WD does what it should and does it well. Steering a little dull on the turn in though. Supra, steering feels sharper and generally cleaner. Have not yet explored grip, as I expected so far.
One thing, I was driving Supra yesterday after a shower and when the wheels hit a puddle on one side of the road I felt it through the steering. Probably a plus, nothing scary but noticeable. Living in the tropics we get a lot of rain and the Yaris has been the preferred car in the wet on tarmac. Probably will continue to be. Its a rally car (sort of) after all.
Reactions on the road - not many people spot the Yaris as being anything special. So far the Supra has had attention from others, including people in Utes and P platers who want to drag away from the lights - I let them get on with it. Bestwas a chat with a young lad, aroudn 10, who started off saying he hadn't seen many and was up on the technical detail.
So, two great cars, both fun and competent. I'll probably use the Yaris as daily driver round town, smaller and so on. Though it has a slightly longer wheelbase than the Supra which is interesting. Pretty much a wheel at each corner.
Simply the gen2 Yaris rocks. Highly recommend
 

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The GR Yaris shit sll over ur old ass NA CTR. Have you driven the gen 2 220kw version? The power delivery is intense and pulls all the way to redline.
Meh. I've driven one on track and it was nothing special. The 86 felt much much better, by comparison and while I agree its harder to manage, the Supra is a completely different animal.

In any case, as a daily I would much prefer my 17 year old CTR. Fun enough revving out to 8600rpm; Decent fuel economy; Back seats which fit real sized people; and magic seats that make carrying large items a breeze.

Any well driven GRY running on a decent set of 200TW will be able to overtake your Supra at tte corners because you simply cannot put down power without nannies. It will also out brake you because the car is 200kg lighter and came with a set of track ready big ass Brembo brakes. Even the stock tyres are PS4S which is better than your current Supra’s standard archaic PSS.
All things being equal, I don't think so. I likely couldn't keep up, but if a seasoned race car driver was laying down lap times in both cars, given a longish track (with any sort of decent straights in particular), I'd put my money down on the Supra.

While it's just my (unpopular) opinion, along with the GR Corolla, I find the GR Yaris one of the most overrated cars going around.
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