Hybrid turbo sizes

[cntrvslbrs]

For the FP Green...You can possibly update the Claimed Hp # to about 500 hp. We were only able to squeeze 485hp/599tq out of it.

Mods: Port Injection (w/ Injector Dynamics 1050 cc injectors), Reflex+, Powerneedy catted DP, MST Intake, and Ethanol at E56. If I was catless maybe, it would be 500+ capable but stock turbo will push to 550. Maybe somebody with the FP Green with the same mods but catless can chime in.

Sponsored

 

[AJRMKV]

For the FP Green...You can possibly update the Claimed Hp # to about 500 hp. We were only able to squeeze 485hp/599tq out of it.

Mods: Port Injection (w/ Injector Dynamics 1050 cc injectors), Reflex+, Powerneedy catted DP, MST Intake, and Ethanol at E56. If I was catless maybe, it would be 500+ capable but stock turbo will push to 550. Maybe somebody with the FP Green with the same mods but catless can chime in.

So this turbo is essentially a downgrade over stock

 

[razorlab]

So this turbo is essentially a downgrade over stock

Yea that is insanely disappointing but I also might be one of the few that is not a fan of FP turbos, coming from a long history with Evos.

 

[cntrvslbrs]

So this turbo is essentially a downgrade over stock

Yea that is insanely disappointing but I also might be one of the few that is not a fan of FP turbos, coming from a long history with Evos.

Yeah, tell me about it. I was pretty bummed out about it. My tuner felt bad for me too.

 

[muchbread]

Added the Alibaba G30-800 and G30-770

How good or bad are the Ali Baba turbos actually?

 

[razorlab]

How good or bad are the Ali Baba turbos actually?

I don't have personal experience with them. I do know a bunch of VW guys have had good luck with them, but it obviously depends on the company making them.

 

[racebuild]

For the FP Green...You can possibly update the Claimed Hp # to about 500 hp. We were only able to squeeze 485hp/599tq out of it.

Mods: Port Injection (w/ Injector Dynamics 1050 cc injectors), Reflex+, Powerneedy catted DP, MST Intake, and Ethanol at E56. If I was catless maybe, it would be 500+ capable but stock turbo will push to 550. Maybe somebody with the FP Green with the same mods but catless can chime in.

Im interested in seeing your logs.

Those results are disappointing with PI and E56.

 

[cntrvslbrs]

Im interested in seeing your logs.

Those results are disappointing with PI and E56.

I might have some logs.

The best way to describe it is...In the middle of getting into the power (especially in 3rd gear), it just feels like it goes nowhere. Honestly, it shouldn't be marketed as an upgrade because it's potential is not as capable as the stock turbo. I was contacted about testing the Red but honestly, they've gone silent on me probably because the Red won't be up to snuff either.

 

[razorlab]

DAW Ultraflow

Conservative track tune with stock fuel system.

No PI, no HPFP, no meth.

Just stock direct injection.

Bright blue line is stock map
Red line is 93 pump gas
Black line is MS109

Numbers are legit numbers at the the wheels

A lot more in the turbo but was heavily fuel limited.

Hey @kyle9, since the new DAW naming is ultra confusing, which one is this? The Flow Max or the Ultra Flow R? Flow max being smaller than the Ultra Flow R.

 

[AJRMKV]

Yea that is insanely disappointing but I also might be one of the few that is not a fan of FP turbos, coming from a long history with Evos.

I came from evos as well, although i've only had the 4B11 which FP performed well on. I had higher expectations tbh..

 

[kyle9]

Hey @kyle9, since the new DAW naming is ultra confusing, which one is this? The Flow Max or the Ultra Flow R? Flow max being smaller than the Ultra Flow R.

That’s the original gen 2 ultraflow. It’s similar to the Flow Max but has a slightly smaller compressor wheel.

Here is the new Flow Max dyno with PI. It was done on a completely different dyno which AMS says it reads 6-7% lower than their dyno jet.

in terms of real world, I consistently gained about 3mph of top speed at Gingerman (139 -> 142). I think there is more power in the tune if we push the timing a bit more, but boost is pretty much maxed out at 32psi. Technically, you could run more boost but it’s out of its ideal efficiency range already.

 

[Nights234]

That’s the original gen 2 ultraflow. It’s similar to the Flow Max but has a slightly smaller compressor wheel.

Here is the new Flow Max dyno with PI. It was done on a completely different dyno which AMS says it reads 6-7% lower than their dyno jet.

in terms of real world, I consistently gained about 3mph of top speed at Gingerman (139 -> 142). I think there is more power in the tune if we push the timing a bit more, but boost is pretty much maxed out at 32psi. Technically, you could run more boost but it’s out of its ideal efficiency range already.

What fuel were you using for this?

 

[KungFu]

That’s the original gen 2 ultraflow. It’s similar to the Flow Max but has a slightly smaller compressor wheel.

Here is the new Flow Max dyno with PI. It was done on a completely different dyno which AMS says it reads 6-7% lower than their dyno jet.

in terms of real world, I consistently gained about 3mph of top speed at Gingerman (139 -> 142). I think there is more power in the tune if we push the timing a bit more, but boost is pretty much maxed out at 32psi. Technically, you could run more boost but it’s out of its ideal efficiency range already.

Is this new graph on MS109?

 

[kyle9]

Is this new graph on MS109?

Yeah ms109. They said the 611whp was equivalent to about 650whp on their previous dynojet.

For reference I was hitting similar speeds as Jackie’s supra on the straights at Gingerman (when he last brought it there). Slightly different aero setup but equivalent tires.

 

[superd6199]

Creating it's own thread so it's easier to find/manage/update.

If you own any of the turbos below that I don't have sizes for yet, please measure it and post so I can update this as we go!

OEM
Compressor inducer: 50mm / 6 blade
Turbine exducer: 50mm / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating: 550hp?

CTS
New cast compressor and turbine housing.
Compressor inducer: 66mm? / 11 blade
Turbine exducer: 68mm? / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating: 900hp

DAW Ultra Flow
New cast compressor and turbine housing.
Compressor inducer: 62mm / 9 blade
Turbine exducer: 62mm / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating: 700hp+

Remnant Performance 65 Omega
New cast compressor and turbine housing
Compressor inducer: 65.4mm / 9 blade
Turbine exducer: 58mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating: 840hp

Alibaba G30-900
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 62mm / 9blade
Turbine exducer: 55mm / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating: 800

Pure850
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 62mm / 7blade
Turbine exducer: ??mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating: 800hp?

Pure800
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 62mm / 7blade
Turbine exducer: 62mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating: 750hp?

Pure700
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 62mm / 9blade
Turbine exducer: 58mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating: 700hp?

TTE
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 63mm / 7 blade
Turbine exducer: ??mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating: 600hp+

Tomioka TR750
OEM turbine housing, bored out. New cast compressor housing
Compressor inducer: 59mm / 6 blade
Turbine exducer: OEM? / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating: 750hp

Alibaba G30-770
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 58mm / 9blade
Turbine exducer: 55mm / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating: 650

Driftmotion stage 3
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 57mm / 6 blade
Turbine exducer: 57mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating:??

Driftmotion stage 2
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 57mm / 6 blade
Turbine exducer: OEM? / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating:??

Driftmotion stage 1
OEM compressor and turbine housing, bored out
Compressor inducer: 54mm / 6 blade
Turbine exducer: OEM? / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating:??

Forced Performance Green
New cast compressor housing, reuse your OEM turbine housing
Compressor inducer: 57mm / 6 blade
Turbine exducer: OEM SIZE (50mm) - UHF Aero / 10 blade
Claimed HP rating:??

Vargas GC
New cast compressor housing, reuse your OEM turbine housing
Compressor inducer: 58mm / 9 blade
Turbine exducer: OEM (50mm)
Claimed HP rating: 600hp

Vargas GC-Mid
New cast compressor and turbine housing
Compressor inducer: 58mm / 9 blade
Turbine exducer: 55mm
Claimed HP rating: 650hp

Vargas GC+
New cast compressor and turbine housing
Compressor inducer: 68mm / 9 blade
Turbine exducer: 62mm / 9 blade
Claimed HP rating: 800hp

you forgot the disclaimer with
Remnant Performance 65 Omega “In two weeks”

Sponsored