XtremeMaC
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Betting on one horse is a gamble. Risk adverse options are to be kept whether legislation says this or that. Last year it was strictly 2035 or whatever, today there are talks to maybe loosen some..
It's extra cost but it's great that Toyota and others are looking into multiple options. That's how they'll stay afloat. In the meantime whole world is behind China on EVs and solar...
Tesla was only able to turn a profit starting Q2 of 2021 and to my 6 month old knowledge, Big 3 were still not profiting from building EVs.
So, there's sustainability, profitability and whatnot that also play a role.
And you've to acknowledge that automotive is an extremely volatile industry. First to go up in smoke in crisis as we've seen so many times. gotta keep options..
Then, when gas and gas tax goes away, electricity prices will rise. Usage will rise, there'll be need for additional sources. Do Tesla Super Chargers have flat rate across the US? Will we charge at home or will go to a "cheaper" station to charge??
Did you guys see this?:
fords deal to use tesla charging connector and superchargers could kill ccs
On another note, what bothers me right now is it's like we've completely forgone the concept of lightweight. All new ICE cars put on massive weight lately.
Add 48V mild-hybrid and you add 500lb easily and add comfort and convenience options you're at 1000lb.
Keep the ICE alive, lower engine disp add TC, but then we've tacked on so much weight. They require e-motor assist to get the car's ass moving... These are not making things easy for the ICE...
Anyhow, what's the likelihood that A100 will be at M2 weight or more, if EV.... Will Toyota add gizmos to give the driver the fun back from senseless, muted acceleration?
It's extra cost but it's great that Toyota and others are looking into multiple options. That's how they'll stay afloat. In the meantime whole world is behind China on EVs and solar...
Tesla was only able to turn a profit starting Q2 of 2021 and to my 6 month old knowledge, Big 3 were still not profiting from building EVs.
So, there's sustainability, profitability and whatnot that also play a role.
And you've to acknowledge that automotive is an extremely volatile industry. First to go up in smoke in crisis as we've seen so many times. gotta keep options..
Then, when gas and gas tax goes away, electricity prices will rise. Usage will rise, there'll be need for additional sources. Do Tesla Super Chargers have flat rate across the US? Will we charge at home or will go to a "cheaper" station to charge??
Did you guys see this?:
fords deal to use tesla charging connector and superchargers could kill ccs
On another note, what bothers me right now is it's like we've completely forgone the concept of lightweight. All new ICE cars put on massive weight lately.
Add 48V mild-hybrid and you add 500lb easily and add comfort and convenience options you're at 1000lb.
Keep the ICE alive, lower engine disp add TC, but then we've tacked on so much weight. They require e-motor assist to get the car's ass moving... These are not making things easy for the ICE...
Anyhow, what's the likelihood that A100 will be at M2 weight or more, if EV.... Will Toyota add gizmos to give the driver the fun back from senseless, muted acceleration?
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