2JZ-No-Sh*t
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Hopefully the economy doesn't go to shit and Toyota decides to pull the plug at the last minute. Cough cough FTHS...
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Look like what? The black GT3 concept car?The âproductionâ car(s) will not look like that.
looks like Toyota is changing their EV developmentItâs all politics folksâŠ.understand politics, and you will make very good decisions in your life (stocks, real estate, cars, etcâŠ). Itâs all politics!
EVâs were never intended to be THE ONLY way to power vehicles. Yes, we are seeing more and more companies adopting EVâs in their lineup, but itâs not because they believe âitâs the future.â They do so to meet fleet carbon footprint numbers to an acceptable number issued by the CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. This isnât new, itâs been happening every time a new administration has come into the office. Some administrations are more concerned with climate change, some are concerned with oil, some are concerned with guns, some are concerned with taxes, etcâŠ. CURRENTLY, manufacturers with larger fleet of cars must âmakeâ OR must âstart working onâ EV development to meet administration standards for each segment of vehicleâŠotherwise, they have to toss out that segment (cough-cough, LandCruiser). As long as a manufacturer is able to have x-percentage of fleet electrified, they can then continue making x-percentage of ICE powered vehicles. Ever wonder why Ford came out with the supercharged V8 Raptor R AFTER the release of the Lightning and Mach-E??? They had to meet the EV fleet percentage to get the green light to continue releasing big displacement gas engines. Same rule applies to Chevy, Honda, Nissan, etcâŠ. and Toyota!!!
So, if you understand politics, you will easily be able to foresee upcoming trends and make better decisions on a bunch of things!
Your welcomeâŠ.and just be patient, every administration is different .
Saw this. Hopefully their long term BEV plan will turn out well since they needed to get on top of it one way or another.looks like Toyota is changing their EV development
When I said Toyota wasnât going all in with EVâs, no one believed me. Toyota is super smart folks, like quantum computation smart! What they are doing is buying time until a new administration arrives. EVâs are not cost effective or practical for the everyday consumer. They know this! So, âwhenâ a new administration comes in 2024, all other automakers will be scrambling to revert back to ICE powered vehicles while Toyota will be ready instantly for their new lineup. Why do you think some of their best models wonât be ready byâŠ..tadaaaaâŠ.2024!!!looks like Toyota is changing their EV development
I think Toyota and specifically Akio Toyoda are keen to do several last-chance ICE and hybrid ICE projects prior to 2035... but the U.S. is far from their only market. There are also all the other world countries and their own positions on phasing out gasoline and diesel at certain hard dates in the future, to say nothing of ever tightening emissions regulations in each of those countries. The U.S. isn't going to stop advancing electric vehicle technology and infrastructure.When I said Toyota wasnât going all in with EVâs, no one believed me. Toyota is super smart folks, like quantum computation smart! What they are doing is buying time until a new administration arrives. EVâs are not cost effective or practical for the everyday consumer. They know this! So, âwhenâ a new administration comes in 2024, all other automakers will be scrambling to revert back to ICE powered vehicles while Toyota will be ready instantly for their new lineup. Why do you think some of their best models wonât be ready byâŠ..tadaaaaâŠ.2024!!!
I'd also love to know more about how this is going for them. I've seen the recent proof of concept R&D car in a crossover chassis. While it is fake it is still far more interesting than a soulless 1-speed silent experience.Can I ask about the Simulated manual? how long were they planning that? because as far as we were concerned they wanted to focus on electrification
I believe this is Yamahaâs new tech that Toyota is using. Itâs a voltage-regulated âshift-by-wireâ setup that is just in prototyping.Can I ask about the Simulated manual? how long were they planning that? because as far as we were concerned they wanted to focus on electrification
Hang on... it was my understanding previous to your post that the GR GT3 Concept *was* the prototype platform that would be shared between the next generation Supra and an upcoming FAR more expensive Lexus supercar.There is a new sports car platform coming, this I know for sure (Lexus something and Toyota Supra successor).
There are R&D mules with undetectable camo running new underpinnings for the new platform. However, pretty positive itâs not the GR GT3.
I never said the GR GT3 was the new Supra or a new Lexus. I said there is a new platform on its way, and whether or not it uses the same underpinnings is yet to be confirmed. However, the GR GT3 (current concept) is a different car altogether. This is why I am saying I donât believe we will see a âGR GT3â stateside. There is a new platform being developed, and from what I know takes some queues from the concept but mostly the basics (long hood, short rear, etcâŠ). The Lexus version will have all the goodies, and the Toyota version will be less fancy but more performance oriented. This GR GT3 is sort of a mystery to be honest because I am not sure where it fits in the lineup. We donât have any dimensions or chassis details yet to confirm if this is the new âAâ platform.Hang on... it was my understanding previous to your post that the GR GT3 Concept *was* the prototype platform that would be shared between the next generation Supra and an upcoming FAR more expensive Lexus supercar.
That is not the case? The GR GT3 prototype/platform represents something else entirely?
I still think Lexus would sell it globally including in NA given that we do have very wealthy people who buy supercars in NA but I had thought all this time that the GR GT3 Concept was not a third car but a platform that would spawn a new Supra and Lexus with wildly different powertrains, options and styling. Also it very curiously shares many of the same hard-points visually with one of Mazda's recent "Vision" concept sportscars.
Is this the platform that A70 was talking about?I never said the GR GT3 was the new Supra or a new Lexus. I said there is a new platform on its way, and whether or not it uses the same underpinnings is yet to be confirmed. However, the GR GT3 (current concept) is a different car altogether. This is why I am saying I donât believe we will see a âGR GT3â stateside. There is a new platform being developed, and from what I know takes some queues from the concept but mostly the basics (long hood, short rear, etcâŠ). The Lexus version will have all the goodies, and the Toyota version will be less fancy but more performance oriented. This GR GT3 is sort of a mystery to be honest because I am not sure where it fits in the lineup. We donât have any dimensions or chassis details yet to confirm if this is the new âAâ platform.