I think we can all agree that if the A90 releases as the car portrayed in the MT, it will be a disaster for Toyota. Mid 300's hp, half GT/half sports car, BMW interior, expensive compared to it's competition. Id get a Q60 red sport and call it a day.
It's fine guys. Just try to think about poor Guff's job next time a conversation gets a little spicy.
I agree, that's why I still have a feeling Toyota is up to something with this car. Maybe other folks are right, they could just be presenting a demo car for the sole purpose of showing off it's suspension, rigidity, etc... However, those cars look pretty complete....even the interiors. I can't see this car changing too much from what we have seen so far. Your right though, I have to be fair and at least give Toyota a chance to officially state these specs.
Things like the interior, several of the journalists said Toyota mentioned the car will have a bespoke interior so we can still hold our breath on that one.
Another issue to think of is that Lexus has become the Toyota of the 90's since all the engineers have moved on up. Toyota has become the budget brand while Lexus has taken the market who can afford six figure vehicles and not balk at the badge, The top trim Supra of the past would have been 80k roughly today. Right around where the LC500 is being priced and having quite the tech despite the lack of manual and weight. The Supra name meant that it's the top car for Toyota, not Lexus while also not attacking and killing their own luxury brand.
Wait.. this is the first time Iâm hearing the A90 could possibly have an S series motor. I really doubt that would happen but letâs holdout and see.
I have mentioned it several times here but is mostly blown over. Looking at the timeline of the X3/X4 M with the S58 release, it lineups with the A90 reveal. But again, Toyota can't mention it exists until BMW mentions it. All we know is the Z4 and Supra share the same hardware, in the same way a B58 and S58 share the same hardware.
This is 1/2 the bombshell the car needs for Toyota to meet or exceed expectations. The other 1/2 is a manual transmission. If that happens then we got something to be atleast content and decently pleased with.
I forgot to mention, BMW wont be bringing manuals to the US except in the 2 series and M3/M4 models in new cars. If this car has the S58 like the m3/m4, a manual is a possibility. But Toyota can't say that until BMW says the it
Here is why I donât think that will happen.. why let the world drive a car that doesnât even have the motor they want to bring to production? Just doesnât make good business strategy in a world driven by reviews.
A reviewer did note a CE said drop 50 kgs from the Z4 and we'll be at Supra Weight. Z4 without the gas, luggage and 75 kg driver, equals about 1510 and means we get a 1460 kg Supra at the top trim, which isn't heavy by any means if the lower trims cut down further.
Then that shouldâve been made clear.. keeping things ambiguous will lead to confusion and assumptions thatâll end up back firing like it has.
Other than driving impressions, when reviewers asked about specs, they were met with very wishy washy comments that doesn't boil down anything about performance. Vague things like 300HP and 300 lbs. Only thing concrete was the US will be louder, much, much louder and the CE had his eyes widewith excitement.
