Featured Toyota Supra Size Dimensions Comparison Thread

Discussion in 'General Supra Topics' started by Captain_Kirk, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. AsupramkvC

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    The 5th-generation Celica and the 4th-generation Supa look almost the same from the rear. From the front though, its quite different.

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    I think you should see an eye dr. :p:rofl: Also that Camry started production 2 years pryor to the A80. ;)
     
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    It was just a little tidbit i noticed a while ago,didn't think I'd ever have to use it as an example
     
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    That's the point we are trying to make! People will just buy what their pocket allows and that's that! It's a sad truth and all relative to the buyer at hand...50k is a lot of money for some, just right for others, and cheap for another group!
    Yes, simple math...29k is a lot less...but still relative! This may be expensive for some as well!
    While I understand your point, the Supra has always been a moderately expensive car! Yes, looking back, it was in the 30-45k range; however, THAT WAS IN THE 90's!!! Can you fathom how much money that was back then since we are talking about math!...in defense of @RyanGT3RS ...did you skip economics and the lesson on factors such as inflation?! Bring that today, and what was 30-45k is somewhere in the ballpark of 70-79k! So before you spit on "mathematics", dial it back and consider other factors!
    Anyone can dump their money into a 29k 370z and be happy with it; however, added modifications equate to additional wear and tear the motor was not intended to handle...bills add up with unforeseen repairs and, not to mention, internal modifications to handle the power! Compression ratios of an N/A motor vs a turbo motor are different as well! Consider the car and you'll quickly see how much you'll spend!
    It needs to sink in...the 370z does not compete with the cars the A90 has been released to compete against. Seldom to you see a 370z outdoing a Cayman GTS or M2 Competition on a track! In turn...the car is priced with its competitors and is a bargain in comparison. The Nismo Z tries and doesn't come much closer to these cars and you've gotta pay close to $43k for one!
    The mentality is similar to "hmmmm...I can get that 370z, but why buy that for 29k when I can get another JDM coupe like...let's say a Civic...for a fraction of that"...it's two separate tiers of cars and that's that!

    This makes me curious...how much is the A90 in Australia?...because, the M2 seems to start at 99k and the Cayman GTS is listed around $176k...those are the A90's competition, and will be priced somewhere around those and would be rightfully so if your market is as I've just written! If it's expensive in Australia it is still proportionally priced with other cars to which it performs similar!
     
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    This is very one track minded approach to a complex situation that is incredibly unique to each buyer and their desires, you even saying at the end "I wouldn't choose either," shows that. No one is buying a car at the very top of their budget AND is expecting to put a bunch of money into it, whether it be a $29k, 370z, $50k Supra, or $185k GTR Nismo.
     
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    That's a great question, why do they bother? They are within 10-15% of each other in size and price, they seat the same number of people, they are mechanically identical under the skin and they look really similar. Thanks for making my point.
     
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    Drive the two and report back
     
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    You have too much time on your hands dude lol.

    Also your making my point for me too, as you said, the Supra has always been a bigger brother to another model. Now it's just faster and dramaticly more expensive (2x), it's actually shorter lol! I think you missed mine a few posts back. All I'm saying is, what they ended up delivering is so similar to an 86 size, chassis and suspension wise, they could have shared a platform (just like... wait for it....the 2 and 4 series BMW do!).
     
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    I have, the 2 is slightly nimbler.
     
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    It's 3 inches wider and 6 inches longer. "Shorter wheelbase than the 86" does not mean it is shorter overall.

    The 2 series and 3 series do not share the same platform, same motor does not mean same platform. That would be saying the Supra shares the same platform as the X5. 1 and 2 series share platforms, and 3 and 4 share platforms.

    Being 'nimbler' is a byproduct of many many differences
     
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    A70 vs A90
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    I try to make my points lol...the 2 and 4 share motors..."wait for it"...not the chassis!
    None of us are engineers here involved in developing the A90...the fact that they did what they did must have made more sense than what wasn't done...what's left?! Drive it! See if it makes you like it or hate it, buy it or leave it!
     
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    Firstly, very bad taste to bring up other cars that people own and what that might say about their spending power. It’s really none of anyone’s business and certainly doesn’t validate/invalidate their opinion.

    Secondly, it’s not just about cost vs power. The Cayman S is less than a second quicker than the 370z on the top gear lap board. However, Porsche seems to do jolly well selling them, despite them costing more money for similar or less power. The vast majority of buyers have no interest in modifying their car. So that fact something could be as fast is pretty much irrelevant to Toyota and their pricing.
     
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