Dannyvandelft
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I would assume it gets a mechanical one.
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Supra Guy
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I think it’s all going to come down in pricing for the 2.0. If they price it right it could be a hit. Although with the new 86 coming soon it could be interesting how it plays out.
Dannyvandelft
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The GR86 with 255hp (I'm honestly thinking it's getting the same engine) will be a different market. Manual, cheap interior, lower grade everything. Baby Supra obviously gets the better looks, 2 seat layout, upscale BMW interior, etc.
Jabba
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Wouldn't make sense for the GR86 to have the B48. It's being co-developed with Subaru, so it'll definitely still have a boxer engine (maybe turbo or not). Plus, the car isn't being produced in Austria (Magna Streyr) like the Supra is.
Dannyvandelft
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Yeah true. I thought I read somewhere a while ago that Subaru and Toyota were going separate ways on the BRZ/86 but I guess not.
Jabba
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I remember seeing something similar about a year ago, but now it seems like Subaru is doing most of the development and Toyota is just an "overseer" according to some insiders. A bit of a disappointment, but a ~2700 lb, manual, turbo coupe could still be plenty fun. Especially if they improve the handling the 86 is known for.
IMO, GR86 > 4 cycl Supra. But, like you said different target markets.
supraboi
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2JZ-No-Sh*t
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The 4 banger is getting pushed back. Might as well canned it all together ToyotaUSA 
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-toyota-gr-supra-2-0-delay-details-pictures/
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-toyota-gr-supra-2-0-delay-details-pictures/
johnny_10196
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Idk if this means anything, but it was posted on Toyota Canada press release.
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The GT86 is surprisingly fun! I can't wait to compare it to the Supra 2.0 that I hope to get as a press car.
johnny_10196
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https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/3...021-toyota-supra-2-0-what-do-you-want-to-know
I Have The Four-Cylinder 2021 Toyota Supra 2.0. What Do You Want To Know?
No, I don't know why it's not called the Celica. These things aren't up to me.
For years, Toyota told us it wants three sports cars in its lineup, with the new six-cylinder Toyota Supra up top and the soon-to-be-replaced Toyota 86 as an entry point. It's fun to imagine the return of the MR2, but I'm not exactly holding my breath there. For now, we'll have to make do with this in the middle: the 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder version of the Supra, new for 2021.
That's what I'm driving this weekend. What do you want to know about it?
I actually like the new Supra, and not just because I am paid to tell Jonathon Klein that his opinions are bad and wrong. I drove the car at its launch last year and found it to be powerful, swift, noisy, comfortable and loaded with competent tech. Sure, its BMW underpinnings aren't what we expected after two decades of asking for a new Supra, but I get the cost-saving reasons to have it share running gear with the new Z4. And that platform definitely gets the job done, despite lacking the manual transmission a proper sports car should still have.
We all know that in terms of sales, the sports car market isn't what it used to be. That's why the release of a 2.0-liter turbo four entry model Supra was kind of a surprise. You get identical looks and the same interior, and 219 fewer pounds for a curb weight of just 3,181 pounds.
And you get BMW's familiar modern twin-scroll turbo four, here rated at 255 horsepower 295 lb-ft of torque. This motor sees duty in the 330i and a bunch of other cars, and it happens to be quite good; all of BMW's crazy powerful M engines steal the spotlight, but this is a solidly potent engine that offers tons of everyday fun. Those weight savings are nice, too.
Strangely, the 2.0-liter Supra hasn't been released yet. The six-cylinder Supra starts at $49,990; my guess is this thing will be in the upper $30,000-range, and with my tester's Safety & Technology Package (radar cruise control, cross-traffic alert, emergency braking, etc.) I estimate something like a $42,000 price tag. We'll see.
Things I like so far:
I Have The Four-Cylinder 2021 Toyota Supra 2.0. What Do You Want To Know?
No, I don't know why it's not called the Celica. These things aren't up to me.
For years, Toyota told us it wants three sports cars in its lineup, with the new six-cylinder Toyota Supra up top and the soon-to-be-replaced Toyota 86 as an entry point. It's fun to imagine the return of the MR2, but I'm not exactly holding my breath there. For now, we'll have to make do with this in the middle: the 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder version of the Supra, new for 2021.
That's what I'm driving this weekend. What do you want to know about it?
I actually like the new Supra, and not just because I am paid to tell Jonathon Klein that his opinions are bad and wrong. I drove the car at its launch last year and found it to be powerful, swift, noisy, comfortable and loaded with competent tech. Sure, its BMW underpinnings aren't what we expected after two decades of asking for a new Supra, but I get the cost-saving reasons to have it share running gear with the new Z4. And that platform definitely gets the job done, despite lacking the manual transmission a proper sports car should still have.
We all know that in terms of sales, the sports car market isn't what it used to be. That's why the release of a 2.0-liter turbo four entry model Supra was kind of a surprise. You get identical looks and the same interior, and 219 fewer pounds for a curb weight of just 3,181 pounds.
And you get BMW's familiar modern twin-scroll turbo four, here rated at 255 horsepower 295 lb-ft of torque. This motor sees duty in the 330i and a bunch of other cars, and it happens to be quite good; all of BMW's crazy powerful M engines steal the spotlight, but this is a solidly potent engine that offers tons of everyday fun. Those weight savings are nice, too.
Strangely, the 2.0-liter Supra hasn't been released yet. The six-cylinder Supra starts at $49,990; my guess is this thing will be in the upper $30,000-range, and with my tester's Safety & Technology Package (radar cruise control, cross-traffic alert, emergency braking, etc.) I estimate something like a $42,000 price tag. We'll see.
Things I like so far:
- The smaller motor still has plenty of everyday power, and it keeps the Supra's booming, crackling exhaust notes. The sound is much better than I expected for an entry-level model.
- The interior, iDrive system, seats, and overall quality remain pretty sharp on the base car.
- It's a seriously good handler, though I'm not sure I'd rank it among the best you can buy right now.
- I still wish it had a real stick shift.
- Will it prove more fun on back roads than the smaller but harsher 86? I'm not sure yet.
- Unless the price is way lower than I'm estimating, it may just be worth it to go for the six-cylinder Supra.
- They should've called it the Celica.
Axix23
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No offense but why is your video link even in this thread? It has nothing to do with the new Supra 2.0. We all enjoy your videos but it’s get old when you link your videos everywhere. :/
