Wagner Tuning Manifold....Thoughts?

[GreyMadder]

Pretty big difference in pricing from the current set ups avaiable. Whos going to try one?

https://www.wagner-tuning.com/produ...oyota-bmw-b58-2-motor-200001175-preorder.html

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[dethred]

I just like the name. Pretty sure they're a decent company, familial jokes aside.

 

[zrk]

The testing they did was shown to be pretty unimpressive. Ambient temps were ~40° and still IATs climbed 20-30°.

Appears to be mainly a show piece.

Better than stock, sure, by a couple degrees, pressure drop is ok. I would never run something like that with those kind of numbers on my car.

 

[A90 Shop]

The testing they did was shown to be pretty unimpressive. Ambient temps were ~40° and still IATs climbed 20-30°.

Appears to be mainly a show piece.

Better than stock, sure, by a couple degrees, pressure drop is ok. I would never run something like that with those kind of numbers on my car.

Great input, Thanks Zack

 

[Thraxbert]

It has a 2-pass core (not good). It's also missing a fuel rail+injectors for PI, so add $700 to the stated price for most people (assuming 1050cc + rail option). Kind of a bummer to see a product not be terribly forthcoming about the total cost of ownership. The price is pretty much just marketing.

I'm sure there are some out there in race classes who just want a manifold for cooling (race class regs on fueling), but the coolant ports look pretty small and a 2-pass core is highly undesirable for IATs, so I don't think it will be an ideal option for the customer base it's targeting. This thesis is supported by the test results @zrk is highlighting with a large rise in IATs characteristic of 2-pass coolant cores. These are just not encouraging results, regardless of the price.

So if a "just cooling" manifold pricing doesn't stop the sustained IAT rise exhibited by the stock manifold, what's the point?

 

[Blue]

@zrk @Thraxbert does the AMS manifold have better proven stats for trackracing use?

 

[zrk]

If you want a good manifold, buy EOS. That's what I say everytime, and that's what I'll keep saying. It's proven time and time again to be the best.

 

[Blue]

Better than AMS?
(For trackuse)

 

[zrk]

Absolutely.

 

[VeeBeeA90]

Absolutely.

but what about all the talk on the EOS only being better with a Ice box set up ?

 

[zrk]

but what about all the talk on the EOS only being better with a Ice box set up ?

"All the Talk" is literally one person that keeps spewing the same shit.

I'm kinda over helping out on this subject though. Buy whatever, then buy the right one later. I don't care if you waste your money.

 

[razorlab]

One of the faster track supra guy in Australia uses the Wagner and raves about it.

 

[Tcs supra]

Any new info on the Wagner. I was just about to purchase one, but found this thread and got me second guessing my choice.

 

[bushido]

Any new info on the Wagner. I was just about to purchase one, but found this thread and got me second guessing my choice.

did you only look at one thread?

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/intake-manifolds.9182/page-18#post-281504

visit the thread and continue through the pages

tl;dr not the best, but good purchase

 

[AJRMKV]

Any new info on the Wagner. I was just about to purchase one, but found this thread and got me second guessing my choice.

The zrk has spoken.

This is the way.

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