What mods to go first?

[Suuupra]

Hello guys how are you
I am thinking of working on my cooling system first because its 122f degrees where I live.
So do you recommend going for the 5 CSF racing cooling package first which are the
1: CSF super intake manifold
2: CSF Heat exchanger
3: CSF Auxiliary radiator X2
4: CSF transmission cooler

or should i just go for bigger turbo xD

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[Extreme Power House]

Out of these 4, i would start with the heat exchanger

 

[underdonk]

Out of these 4, i would start with the heat exchanger

Over the intake manifold? The intake manifold design and material that comes stock on the car seems to be an enormous weak link in the B58.

 

[zrk]

Over the intake manifold? The intake manifold design and material that comes stock on the car seems to be an enormous weak link in the B58.

Intake manifold should 100% be number 1 for cooling. I've yet to see any data that says the heat exchanger upgrades do anything to improve cooling performance.

 

[Cptnslo]

Just skip straight to a big turbo

 

[Meraki Autoworks]

We can help you get all those and ship to Qatar

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[Extreme Power House]

Over the intake manifold? The intake manifold design and material that comes stock on the car seems to be an enormous weak link in the B58.

Intake manifold should 100% be number 1 for cooling. I've yet to see any data that says the heat exchanger upgrades do anything to improve cooling performance.

Remember guys, the car is stock. None of these mods will make a huge difference at this time, not until you start pushing serious power.

 

[zrk]

None of these mods will make a huge difference at this time, not until you start pushing serious power.

As someone who pushes.. some power, and is pretty close friends with those who do, I couldn't disagree more. There's more to a car's health than just 'making a difference' in HP.

With high IATs on a stock motor, the car starts to pull timing aggressively. Heat soak is absolutely something that someone should look to manage right off the bat. As time goes on, we learn things and being able to consistently make pass after pass, lap after lap, or whatever. Managing IATs is very very key, especially on this B58.

There is irrefutable data that EOS manifold keeps temps around 10-20-30° above ambient even in extreme conditions- like the drag cars at TX2K. It has nothing to do with how much power these cars make, it has to do with how fucking hot it is outside. There is not any data that shows a similar behavior or reduction in IATs with the upgrading heat exchanger. There is even some data to suggest that the bigger heat exchanges encourage heat soak move having to cool so much more coolant.

Not to mention, it's not exactly cool in Qatar.

 

[Extreme Power House]

As someone who pushes.. some power, and is pretty close friends with those who do, I couldn't disagree more. There's more to a car's health than just 'making a difference' in HP.

With high IATs on a stock motor, the car starts to pull timing aggressively. Heat soak is absolutely something that someone should look to manage right off the bat. As time goes on, we learn things and being able to consistently make pass after pass, lap after lap, or whatever. Managing IATs is very very key, especially on this B58.

There is irrefutable data that EOS manifold keeps temps around 10-20-30° above ambient even in extreme conditions- like the drag cars at TX2K. It has nothing to do with how much power these cars make, it has to do with how fucking hot it is outside. There is not any data that shows a similar behavior or reduction in IATs with the upgrading heat exchanger. There is even some data to suggest that the bigger heat exchanges encourage heat soak move having to cool so much more coolant.

Not to mention, it's not exactly cool in Qatar.

I'd like to see more data on that with stock power, all the data i have seen is with tuned cars.

If you have stock power data, please post them here or dm them to me, I'm more than happy to take a look

 

[zrk]

I'd like to see more data on that with stock power, all the data i have seen is with tuned cars.

I mean, sure, but heat is heat is heat is heat is heat. Doesn't matter if it's 10hp or 1000hp. If it's hot it's hot.

I'll get you same manifold data this week.

 

[Suuupra]

I mean, sure, but heat is heat is heat is heat is heat. Doesn't matter if it's 10hp or 1000hp. If it's hot it's hot.

I'll get you same manifold data this week.

what is the best intake manifold in the market atm ?

 

[Silleck]

They're kinda all the same. Just noise makers. MST is popular and loud.

Wait we talking about manifolds or cold air intakes? I didn’t know mst made an intake manifold

 

[romanLegion9574]

Has anyone mentioned the Verus turbo heat shield for lowering IATs?

 

[zrk]

Wait we talking about manifolds or cold air intakes? I didn’t know mst made an intake manifold

I'm just an idiot. I thought for sure it said intake.

The best intake manifold is EOS. Again, proven with data.

 

[painpals]

If you want to minimize your temps it might be worth looking into looping you AC system into the mix with this: https://killerchiller.com/

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