All-new 2023 Nissan Z makes world debut!

[wheeliedub]

@Supra93 was that at least an IP ban?

Anyway, I'm sure we'll recognize him pretty quickly ?

I thought this was a spider-man pointing at himself moment until I read your username. All safe here.

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[Supra93]

So getting back on topic. It's good to see for the most part that everyone is having a good discussion. Post whatever you guys like, just don't break any rules and no personal attacks.

My take on this whole Z vs Supra topic. Looks are subjective, to some it's pick your poison. Performance and value wise, I'll hold off judgement until we have more info and some head to head comparison test.

Carry on gents.

 

[Mason]

I’m sick of every review and opinion of the new z revolving around the Supra. Those z bois hate on the Supra because it’s paddle only with fake vents, when the GTR is the same thing! Fake vents are popular on all cars but especially Japanese cars in this era. Plus the paddles are sooo dang fast. I can’t imagine being angry that a car company doesn’t allow you to choose to go slower. #cancelthemanuals

 

[zrk]

I’m sick of every review and opinion of the new z revolving around the Supra. Those z bois hate on the Supra because it’s paddle only with fake vents, when the GTR is the same thing! Fake vents are popular on all cars but especially Japanese cars in this era. Plus the paddles are sooo dang fast. I can’t imagine being angry that a car company doesn’t allow you to choose to go slower. #cancelthemanuals

I gotta say, if the manual Supra were an option I would have bought it. I didn't realize how great the ZF trans really was before this car.

 

[xyros]

I like the new Z, but come one with that front end! What were they thinking?



Warning! This picture may offend sensitive people, so don't look if you are offended easily.

 

[Axix23]

I wonder what kinda mark up there will be on it!!

 

[RenRed2]

https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-the-2023-nissan-z-stacks-up-to-the-toyota-sup-1847513702

Here's How The 2023 Nissan Z Stacks Up To The Toyota Supra

 

[zrk]

https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-the-2023-nissan-z-stacks-up-to-the-toyota-sup-1847513702

Here's How The 2023 Nissan Z Stacks Up To The Toyota Supra

big large letters.

 

[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

I made another one

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/nissan-z-meme-thread.454/

 

[Dannyvandelft]

https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-the-2023-nissan-z-stacks-up-to-the-toyota-sup-1847513702

Here's How The 2023 Nissan Z Stacks Up To The Toyota Supra

How the Z stacks up to the Supra:

Old platform
Lesser build quality
Heavier (most likely)
Less torque
Longer gearing (6MT)
Open diff (Sport version)
Narrower tires (sport version)
Tiny brakes (sport version)
Shitty suspension (sport version)
Cloth interior (not Alcantara, cloth)

In conclusion, with it's heavier weight, smaller brakes to stop it, one wheel drive (sport), and longer manual gearing and shift times, the Supra will destroy it. The Performance version might stand a better chance, but will still fall behind. If there's a Nismo version coming, that might be a competitor, but that'll likely cost in the $50k range as well.

 

[RenRed2]

How the Z stacks up to the Supra:

Old platform
Lesser build quality
Heavier (most likely)
Less torque
Longer gearing (6MT)
Open diff (Sport version)
Narrower tires (sport version)
Tiny brakes (sport version)
Shitty suspension (sport version)
Cloth interior (not Alcantara, cloth)

In conclusion, with it's heavier weight, smaller brakes to stop it, one wheel drive (sport), and longer manual gearing and shift times, the Supra will destroy it. The Performance version might stand a better chance, but will still fall behind. If there's a Nismo version coming, that might be a competitor, but that'll likely cost in the $50k range as well.

The new Z is interesting and I would test it to see how it drives and feels. ON pure looks alone its the epitome of bland = Nissan styling. I prefer to look at the Supra anyday.

 

[supraboi]

All I heard was engine noise, no exhaust note whatsoever.

-RJM

Yup, does not sound good at all. Maybe it's also because of the cold start?

 

[Escapist]

Ah so it is built on the same platform as the previous generation. I was wondering how Nissan figured out how to keep a brand new sports car at $40k.

 

[zrk]

Ah so it is built on the same platform as the previous generation. I was wondering how Nissan figured out how to keep a brand new sports car at $40k.

it sucks?

Of course, I'm kidding, I actually like the car quite a bit. I can't wait to see what people do to theirs.

There are probably some short cuts, many on the interior, but we'll know more when we see it. Has there been an official MSRP announcement about it? I haven't been paying close attention, but this could be some 44,999 or 49,999 shit.

 

[Escapist]

it sucks?

I wouldn't say that, I've driven a Q50 Red Sport and despite it weighing the same as a SUV, it was pretty fun to drive.

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