Post 6/20 Cars Now Tunable!

[Twisted Tuning]

Neither service includes a tune. Just includes the Ecutek license. It's a better deal, but you're car isn't going to be any different.

depending on where you get the service done, some offer an OTS on the ecu if one doesnt want to pay for the full unlock and clone. but OTS maps are not good, because depending on who you get it from, you will be plagued with limp modes. and would have to send ecu back to russia for any further changes.

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[visconti]

depending on where you get the service done, some offer an OTS on the ecu if one doesnt want to pay for the full unlock and clone. but OTS maps are not good, because depending on who you get it from, you will be plagued with limp modes. and would have to send ecu back to russia for any further changes.

The service that was offered originally, where you send the ECU + Your Flash&Go Tune file to Russia was less than ideal.

We can OBD Program the 06.2020+ ECUs after they been sent to Russia.

We have end users kits...

We actually have a few more things in the works, just waiting for things to get nailed down

 

[Twisted Tuning]

The service that was offered originally, where you send the ECU + Your Flash&Go Tune file to Russia was less than ideal.

We can OBD Program the 06.2020+ ECUs after they been sent to Russia.

We have end users kits...

We actually have a few more things in the works, just waiting for things to get nailed down

yea, OBD flash without the clone is the new thing now. BM3 and MHD can as well once unlocked in russia.

 

[JDM BLKBMW]

Ok. I guess Ill ask the dumb question. Are there any current methods that you can tune a Post 6/20 DME without sending the original ECU to Russia?

Is there any method that is in the works that could possibly allow this, IF it doesn't already exist?

 

[Twisted Tuning]

Ok. I guess Ill ask the dumb question. Are there any current methods that you can tune a Post 6/20 DME without sending the original ECU to Russia?

Is there any method that is in the works that could possibly allow this, IF it doesn't already exist?

No..not right now. Has to be sent to Russia for the unlock at a minimum.

 

[VA90]

A question for the tuners on this thread: I understand the need for ECU tuning for a Pure800 or a big turbo setup, but for someone who wants to keep things relatively mild (ie a downpipe), can you talk about the quantitative benefit to doing the unlock and a tune over just using a JB4?

For example, if we know we can get to, say, 430 whp/450 lb.ft. with a JB4 pump gas map, should we expect something beyond that if we unlock and get an ECUTEK tune? Or are we still bumping up against the same ceiling with respect to the stock turbo? Thanks in advance.

 

[ViscontiSupport]

A question for the tuners on this thread: I understand the need for ECU tuning for a Pure800 or a big turbo setup, but for someone who wants to keep things relatively mild (ie a downpipe), can you talk about the quantitative benefit to doing the unlock and a tune over just using a JB4?

For example, if we know we can get to, say, 430 whp/450 lb.ft. with a JB4 pump gas map, should we expect something beyond that if we unlock and get an ECUTEK tune? Or are we still bumping up against the same ceiling with respect to the stock turbo? Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately most people don’t realize this, but it’s not just about the peak hp number. Tuning the factory computer allows us to change a lot of things that don’t show up on a dyno sheet.

 

[Meep]

A question for the tuners on this thread: I understand the need for ECU tuning for a Pure800 or a big turbo setup, but for someone who wants to keep things relatively mild (ie a downpipe), can you talk about the quantitative benefit to doing the unlock and a tune over just using a JB4?

For example, if we know we can get to, say, 430 whp/450 lb.ft. with a JB4 pump gas map, should we expect something beyond that if we unlock and get an ECUTEK tune? Or are we still bumping up against the same ceiling with respect to the stock turbo? Thanks in advance.

Not a tuner but I believe the biggest downfall of the JB4 while it is good, it can not change fueling, but honestly if you get a custom map for the jb4 and you are just doing the downpipe intake tune route I think jb4 will be fine

 

[zrk]

Not a tuner but I believe the biggest downfall of the JB4 while it is good, it can not change fueling

Or timing, or remove the torque limiter, or.. a bunch else. But it's a pretty decent boost + meth controller w/ logging. It's great, and you can push things, but you run out of room quick.

 

[VA90]

Unfortunately most people don’t realize this, but it’s not just about the peak hp number. Tuning the factory computer allows us to change a lot of things that don’t show up on a dyno sheet.

Yes, absolutely understand that, but it does kind of frame the discussion. The car doesn't spend much time at 6800 RPM in whichever gear is 1:1... Kind of like when I purchase more bandwidth from my ISP; I don't use all of it but it helps know what I'm getting. It's an oversimplification for sure but I don't have a better proxy.

I think we know the JB4 is limited by many of the parameters built into the stock ECU. It's a question of what we can do when freed of those constraints...

 

[ViscontiSupport]

Yes, absolutely understand that, but it does kind of frame the discussion. The car doesn't spend much time at 6800 RPM in whichever gear is 1:1... Kind of like when I purchase more bandwidth from my ISP; I don't use all of it but it helps know what I'm getting. It's an oversimplification for sure but I don't have a better proxy.

I think we know the JB4 is limited by many of the parameters built into the stock ECU. It's a question of what we can do when freed of those constraints...

Your bandwidth analogy is incorrect, just like your JB4 vs Factory ECU tune is incorrect. In both scenarios you're only comparing one data point. You can have 10GB worth of available bandwidth, but if your latency is bad, the internet connection is pretty useless. Im sure any gamers reading this, know exactly what im talking about.

There isnt any question to what we can do with the factory computer when freed of those constraints. Look at the top 20 quarter mile cars. They all have one thing in common and thats none of them have a JB4. A JB4 might take a Stage 2 supra to a 11.0, but with a flash tune on the factory computer we can go a full second quicker, and thats before introducing nitrous to the party.

Then you have the stock turbo record, which we tune, that goes 9.40s. Cranking up the power like that on cars of this level require precise tuning, not just a bump in boost. None of this information is new. We all know the limits of JB4 and im not here to knock on it. Of all the piggybacks, the JB4 is the best option. If I had to have one, Id run it on my car.

Bottom line, theres more to tuning than just peak horsepower and raising boost.

 

[VA90]

right. ok. thanks.

 

[ViscontiSupport]

More landing across the pond. ?

 

[SupraMiami]

More landing across the pond. ?

Gonna need mine soon as well

 

[_Sp1ral0ut]

More landing across the pond. ?

Didn't someone say there might be a new method coming soon but couldn't speak on it yet? Just curious if I misread something or misrembered.

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