New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

[johnny_10196]

Speaking of other markets, will the MKV be sold in China? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the MKIV was available in China.

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[Chikane]

It's highly likely the Chinese will get a version, They are the biggest market now after all. Imho.

 

[A70TTR]

I think Tada mentioned China and Korea at one point; I didn't pay attention though.

 

[A70TTR]

Still plenty of time for things to change, and again we dont know what the truth is to the specs given from the source on page 1. But I figured I add the info so I had it.

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Also, I wanted to touch upon was folks doubting a jump from 3050 to 3300lbs.

- Modern, heated/cooled multi way adjustable seats
- 8-10 speaker audio
- TSS-P
- whatever else they tacked on

all of that weighs a ton... not to say that absolutely happened given being skeptical in the first place, but every bit of 250lbs is feasible lol.

 

[johnny_10196]

Still plenty of time for things to change, and again we dont know what the truth is to the specs given from the source on page 1. But I figured I add the info so I had it.

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Also, I wanted to touch upon was folks doubting a jump from 3050 to 3300lbs.

- Modern, heated/cooled multi way adjustable seats
- 8-10 speaker audio
- TSS-P
- whatever else they tacked on

all of that weighs a ton... not to say that absolutely happened given being skeptical in the first place, but every bit of 250lbs is feasible lol.

Who they did survey / gather feedback for this car from? A bunch of woman and old rich white dudes?

 

[Chikane]

I believe alot of Toyota/Lexus are now built with Chinese markets in mind. The latest Lexus ES is one of those cars I think, reviews for it came out today and lots of media mention American ES and Chinese ES etc.

 

[SVHO]

Who they did survey / gather feedback for this car from? A bunch of woman and old rich white dudes?

Its sad if they did that but it wouldn't surprise me. Money talks and in general older people have more cash to spend ( in general here).

 

[A70TTR]

Who they did survey / gather feedback for this car from? A bunch of woman and old rich white dudes?

The typical buyer for this car (at least in their minds) is sadly not the sort of individual I'd associate with, and unfortunately that was the case for the A70 and A80 too.

I generally just picture those 50yr old Corvette owners lol.

 

[Modal170]

The typical buyer for this car (at least in their minds) is sadly not the sort of individual I'd associate with, and unfortunately that was the case for the A70 and A80 too.

I generally just picture those 50yr old Corvette owners lol.

I hate bringing it up but this car has to at least make people ditch the corvettes and sway them over. So H{P and weight has to do it, not just looks

So all in all, there's little chance we get a non TSS-P, non adjsutable seats and no audio? I like audio, but fuck that in the name of pure driving and keeping it low weight.

 

[2JZ-No-Sh*t]

It makes sense for the EU and Japan to have a 4 cyl model. Don't they have stricter emission standards and heavy taxes on engine displacement or something a long those lines?

 

[Chikane]

I know that we don't always needed to be reminded of this but us enthusiast represent a very small number, the car needs to be competitive and attractive to people who aren't enthusiast. Therefore, it needs to have features that we consider heavy and not needed but for someone else it's a must buy. Remember there are people who buy cars based on if it has Carplay or cooled seats etc. these people don't care about how fast it goes, but how safe it is, how good it looks etc.

Now in my educated guess, to save cost alot of German lux parts will stay in the car and well the LUX parts are heavy.

One thing I will not budge on is TSS 2.0 or TSS,or any safety system I don't think it's too heavy. Anything that will allow me to walk away from a wreck in one piece and stay alive is worth it and should be put into the car.

 

[Modal170]

I know that we don't always needed to be reminded of this but us enthusiast represent a very small number, the car needs to be competitive and attractive to people who aren't enthusiast. Therefore, it needs to have features that we consider heavy and not needed but for someone else it's a must buy. Remember there are people who buy cars based on if it has Carplay or cooled seats etc.

Now in my educated guess, to save cost alot of German lux parts will stay in the car and well the LUX parts are heavy.

One thing I will not budge on is TSS 2.0 or TSS,or any safety system I don't think it's too heavy. Anything that will allow me to walk away from a wreck in one piece and stay alive is worth it and should be put into the car.

The one thing I wish they'd do is just give a stripped version with a detuned engine so we get an 86 version of a Supra with TSS in it.

For those that really care about the driving experience, they get a canvas and would be able to do what they wish with the car via mods and tuning to get the Supra that A70 loved in the first place when he drove it.

 

[Chikane]

Exactly, the smart thing to do is to launch two version, even a limited run of one with out the extra tech. I don't think they'll remove the safety tech, that goes against Toyota's vision. They have to remain at the top for future of mobility and safety is something that should never be compromised.

I think it's because we're in the US market and we only get one car. I'm not going to be surprised if Japan has one without anything on it but TSS. If I need to point any fingers it be at US the Sale division in which A70 has mentioned before.

 

[Modal170]

Exactly, the smart thing to do is to launch two version, even a limited run of one with out the extra tech. I don't think they'll remove the safety tech, that goes against Toyota's vision. They have to remain at the top for future of mobility and safety is something that should never be compromised.

I think it's because we're in the US market and we only get one car. I'm not going to be surprised if Japan has one without anything on it but TSS.

So, I'm by no means an expert but can we run the numbers on what's a good compromise in pricing and specs?

Detuned Supra with TSS only- 3080 lbs, 280 HP 45k
Fully optioned Supra- 3300 425 HP- 54k

Or for the detuned Supra, have an option for each dealership to be able to modify it for about 5k or something to reach the fully optioned Supra in specs with warranty from factory but without the bloated weight?

 

[Chikane]

So, I'm by no means an expert but can we run the numbers on what's a good compromise in pricing and specs?

Detuned Supra with TSS only- 3080 lbs, 280 HP 45k
Fully optioned Supra- 3300 425 HP- 54k

Or for the detuned Supra, have an option for each dealership to be able to modify it for about 5k or something to reach the fully optioned Supra in specs with warranty from factory but without the bloated weight?

Hmm I think a good example or a baseline to go by would be how Japan did their 86, IIRC they had a model that you can buy with nothing inside and it just had steelies for wheels.

I'm also of the group that doesn't trust the given numbers in this thread. I don't think that it being around 50K is realistic for example 63K is too high I would put my guess at about 56-58k as for the weight numbers, I think these are based off cars with full BMW gadgets. If this was with Toyota items (Fabric with leather insert Seats etc.) it will be lighter.

In my opinion I think the fully loaded would be about 405hp 3200lbs at 58k and a blank one would be at about 400hp 3000lbs at 52K

and just for kicks, a Hybrid assist one at 3350lbs 380hp but a much higher torque and a 10 speed instead of the ZF 8.

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