Bimyota
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Since this is the North American specs thread, I guess this is as good a place as any for this.
Specs which matter, roughly in order:
Curb weight stock - Even the high estimate (3300) is lower than my MKIV (3450 on a truck scale). If there's a trim at 3100, I'm interested
Chassis stiffness stock - Talk that it will be as stiff as the LFA is awesome. The MKIV is a wet noodle, even with the targa bolted down
CG height - Be lower than the MKIV, and at least in range of the C7 or Cayman
HP/TQ at BPU (tune plus bolt ons) - High 400s at the wheels would make things interesting, and might keep me from pulling the trigger on a Z06
HP/TQ on stock block with single turbo and fuel - In today's performance car world, 750+ is what you need to stay in the game
Mid-corner speed in Turn 1 at Mid-Ohio and Watkins Glen Turn 11 on r-comps - The most critical turns at my two favorite tracks. Mid-corner speed in a fast turn tells you a lot more than lap times or skidpad Gs. Somehow I don't think they'll let me do that on the test drive...
Out the door price on a reasonably equipped performance model - The US market has a price nice gap between Nismo 370Z and Corvette Z51 where it sounds like this may land
Bad ass launch control - My buddy's RS3 launches as hard as any stock street car I've ever been in, and it's fat (3500+ pounds, before adding two adult males) and "only" goes 3.9 0-60. With the right software, even stock the A90 should have an insane launch.
Torque vectoring diff - Please please please. The MKIV gave us the at the time state-of-the-art Torsen. Up the ante
Magnetic ride control - The only thing more magic are spool valve shocks, and we're not getting those on anything short of a full GRMN
Loads of GR aftermarket parts - Overnight them from Europe, Japan or wherever. I'm not interested in whatever Pep Boys relabels TRD USA festoons the dealerships with. I also think that for those of us in the U.S. of A. that Gazoo badging the A90 is going to be a common cosmetic mod. It's a really nice logo, especially on a white car
Interior - Please differentiate this from the BMW. While they've been good quality and functional, all of my German cars have lacked any sort of emotion in the interior. Even the Audi R8 underwhelms for what it is. One glimmer of hope is that the R8/Gallardo/Huracan is transformed in Lamborghini's hands, so let's hope that Toyota can impact the interior design as much as they have the exterior.
No BMW spyware - Seriously, it's car not my f-ing smartphone. I'll have to roll the MKIV when I need to sneak out for the night, I guess.
What doesn't matter:
Fake vents - I hate that door gash and will replace it with an aftermarket panel ASAP even if I have to 3D print it myself
Stock HP/TQ - First tuner with an ECU flash to go over 400/400 has my money
Steering wheel - Momo Race goes on, and the stock one goes in a box. The MKIV wheel was ugly also and everyone knows it. Not a big deal
Clutch pedal - Every performance car or track car/race car (around 20) I've ever owned has been a manual. The ZF8 is good enough to change that. Also, see "launch control" above
Targa top - I love a targa top in the summer, but the impact on chassis stiffness is often severe. There's a reason why hardtop MKIVs command a price premium
Hopefully we'll know about all of that in the next six months.
Specs which matter, roughly in order:
Curb weight stock - Even the high estimate (3300) is lower than my MKIV (3450 on a truck scale). If there's a trim at 3100, I'm interested
Chassis stiffness stock - Talk that it will be as stiff as the LFA is awesome. The MKIV is a wet noodle, even with the targa bolted down
CG height - Be lower than the MKIV, and at least in range of the C7 or Cayman
HP/TQ at BPU (tune plus bolt ons) - High 400s at the wheels would make things interesting, and might keep me from pulling the trigger on a Z06
HP/TQ on stock block with single turbo and fuel - In today's performance car world, 750+ is what you need to stay in the game
Mid-corner speed in Turn 1 at Mid-Ohio and Watkins Glen Turn 11 on r-comps - The most critical turns at my two favorite tracks. Mid-corner speed in a fast turn tells you a lot more than lap times or skidpad Gs. Somehow I don't think they'll let me do that on the test drive...
Out the door price on a reasonably equipped performance model - The US market has a price nice gap between Nismo 370Z and Corvette Z51 where it sounds like this may land
Bad ass launch control - My buddy's RS3 launches as hard as any stock street car I've ever been in, and it's fat (3500+ pounds, before adding two adult males) and "only" goes 3.9 0-60. With the right software, even stock the A90 should have an insane launch.
Torque vectoring diff - Please please please. The MKIV gave us the at the time state-of-the-art Torsen. Up the ante
Magnetic ride control - The only thing more magic are spool valve shocks, and we're not getting those on anything short of a full GRMN
Loads of GR aftermarket parts - Overnight them from Europe, Japan or wherever. I'm not interested in whatever Pep Boys relabels TRD USA festoons the dealerships with. I also think that for those of us in the U.S. of A. that Gazoo badging the A90 is going to be a common cosmetic mod. It's a really nice logo, especially on a white car
Interior - Please differentiate this from the BMW. While they've been good quality and functional, all of my German cars have lacked any sort of emotion in the interior. Even the Audi R8 underwhelms for what it is. One glimmer of hope is that the R8/Gallardo/Huracan is transformed in Lamborghini's hands, so let's hope that Toyota can impact the interior design as much as they have the exterior.
No BMW spyware - Seriously, it's car not my f-ing smartphone. I'll have to roll the MKIV when I need to sneak out for the night, I guess.
What doesn't matter:
Fake vents - I hate that door gash and will replace it with an aftermarket panel ASAP even if I have to 3D print it myself
Stock HP/TQ - First tuner with an ECU flash to go over 400/400 has my money
Steering wheel - Momo Race goes on, and the stock one goes in a box. The MKIV wheel was ugly also and everyone knows it. Not a big deal
Clutch pedal - Every performance car or track car/race car (around 20) I've ever owned has been a manual. The ZF8 is good enough to change that. Also, see "launch control" above
Targa top - I love a targa top in the summer, but the impact on chassis stiffness is often severe. There's a reason why hardtop MKIVs command a price premium
Hopefully we'll know about all of that in the next six months.
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