Race Tracking Your Supra - Information exchange

[NINaudio]

Thanks

I don't actually have experience using stock pads on track, but I know others have done it. You won't have the same performance as a track pad, but you'll survive if you don't go nuts.

You will also need something to punch out the pins that hold the pads in place. I ended up getting these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JNS1ZF7

I've already got some punches for getting pins out, my old car had the pins for front and rear calipers. Made pad swaps super quick! One of the guys in a local Supra group I go to has used his stock pads for 6 or more HPDE's and hasn't had an issue, but he's got no videos so I can't compare how he drives compared to how I drive. I think still being relatively new, I won't be going too nuts. ?

Project Mu Clubsports. I literally forget I have "track pads" in the car until I'm on track. I've now done 8 track days and several thousand miles of daily driving on the pads and I couldn't be happier.

One thing to note is that I bedded them into fresh Zimmerman rotors when I upgraded. I really think that makes a huge difference based on personal experience and information I've seen in the course of my job.

@mjones


@decodeddiesel means Project Mu Club Racers. I also 1000% agree with him. Best capable track pad for street use, by far. You won't sound like a dump truck on the street and they keep up with track use no problem. Half the price of the internet "golden child" pads as well.

LOL. Thanks, I'll look into them if I decide to go for dual use. How dusty are they compared to stock? Not gonna lie, stock dust level is kinda driving me nuts. Especially compared to what I was used to with carbotechs.

I'd more than likely have the rotors resurfaced for whatever pads I get since I've barely got any miles on the rotors.

Also seems like I should aim for 36 to 38 psi hot? Does that sound about right?

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[razorlab]

LOL. Thanks, I'll look into them if I decide to go for dual use. How dusty are they compared to stock? Not gonna lie, stock dust level is kinda driving me nuts. Especially compared to what I was used to with carbotechs.

I'd more than likely have the rotors resurfaced for whatever pads I get since I've barely got any miles on the rotors.

Also seems like I should aim for 36 to 38 psi hot? Does that sound about right?

They dust worse than stock. They are track pads first.

I wouldn't resurface your rotors, just bed new pads in properly. I haven't resurfaced a rotor for like 18 years.

 

[NINaudio]

They dust worse than stock. They are track pads first.

I wouldn't resurface your rotors, just bed new pads in properly. I haven't resurfaced a rotor for like 18 years.

Sounds like I'll be wanting separate pads for street and track then.

 

[kaj]

Thanks


I've already got some punches for getting pins out, my old car had the pins for front and rear calipers. Made pad swaps super quick! One of the guys in a local Supra group I go to has used his stock pads for 6 or more HPDE's and hasn't had an issue, but he's got no videos so I can't compare how he drives compared to how I drive. I think still being relatively new, I won't be going too nuts. ?





LOL. Thanks, I'll look into them if I decide to go for dual use. How dusty are they compared to stock? Not gonna lie, stock dust level is kinda driving me nuts. Especially compared to what I was used to with carbotechs.

I'd more than likely have the rotors resurfaced for whatever pads I get since I've barely got any miles on the rotors.

Also seems like I should aim for 36 to 38 psi hot? Does that sound about right?

Sounds like I'll be wanting separate pads for street and track then.

Quite a bit to unpack here.
1. If your friend is on stock tires, there is a chance he's done six events on stock brake pads. It also means he may not be going quite that fast. I only did a few laps on my stock pads, and can't imagine them going through 8hrs of track time without complaining.
2. Carbotech is a good bet. You can swap their street and track pads without cleaning rotors.
3. If you swap back and forth between street and track pads that aren't compatible, you will want to lightly sand the rotors down before bedding in your track pads. It's quick and easy, so no biggie.
4. 36-38psi is a lot of pressure. Which tire?

 

[Deighvid]

@mjones


@decodeddiesel means Project Mu Club Racers. I also 1000% agree with him. Best capable track pad for street use, by far. You won't sound like a dump truck on the street and they keep up with track use no problem. Half the price of the internet "golden child" pads as well.

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[FLtrackdays]

Sounds like I'll be wanting separate pads for street and track then.

Been there done that, many year ago. It’s such a pain in the ass. Just invest in some good wheel cleaner. Otherwise, exactly what Jason (kaj) is saying. I’m running Hawk DTC pads and finally got some street squeal after sitting for 2 weeks yesterday. Otherwise not much noise either.

Also seems like I should aim for 36 to 38 psi hot? Does that sound about right?

I would keep it at 36 psi after your cool down lap and pulling in on track.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Sounds like I'll be wanting separate pads for street and track then.

Been there done that, many year ago. It’s such a pain in the ass. Just invest in some good wheel cleaner. Otherwise, exactly what Jason (kaj) is saying. I’m running Hawk DTC pads and finally got some street squeal after sitting for 2 weeks yesterday. Otherwise not much noise either.


I would keep it at 36 psi after your cool down lap and pulling in on trac

whoa- you clean the wheels?? What’s that like?

 

[NINaudio]

Quite a bit to unpack here.
1. If your friend is on stock tires, there is a chance he's done six events on stock brake pads. It also means he may not be going quite that fast. I only did a few laps on my stock pads, and can't imagine them going through 8hrs of track time without complaining.
2. Carbotech is a good bet. You can swap their street and track pads without cleaning rotors.
3. If you swap back and forth between street and track pads that aren't compatible, you will want to lightly sand the rotors down before bedding in your track pads. It's quick and easy, so no biggie.
4. 36-38psi is a lot of pressure. Which tire?

Stock tires. Everything is stock right now, but I'm planning to put in higher temp brake fluid.

The event is at Autobahn South in Joliet, Ill. I've done two events there before so, I'm pretty familiar with it. Picked up 7 seconds (and a lot of consistency) between my first and second day there.

 

[garudathree]

W/ @razorlab at the MTA event, photos by @EdgeOfAdhesion

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[kaj]

Stock tires. Everything is stock right now, but I'm planning to put in higher temp brake fluid.

The event is at Autobahn South in Joliet, Ill. I've done two events there before so, I'm pretty familiar with it. Picked up 7 seconds (and a lot of consistency) between my first and second day there.

I'd research your specific tire, most have specific pressures they like. I don't know that I've ever seen a tire that liked to run that high, but I've also never tracked on street tires. Hopefully someone can chime in.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Some of the best roller track photos I have seen!!!! Fire

 

[FLtrackdays]

W/ @razorlab at the MTA event, photos by @EdgeOfAdhesion

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So badass!!!!!

 

[Rta95]

Looking for some advice from people who probably know more than me and have more experience haha. So I mostly autocross my car (try to do 8-10 events a year, maybe more) but will do 2-4 track days too give or take. I definitely want to limit some of the body roll and oversteer the car has (in my hands). This question was probably asked somewhere but gonna ask it again ?: would just getting a firmer front sway bar help dial in the car more? I known that's definitely subjective but trying to see if there are common trends. I'm thinking of getting the eibach front sway bar and just install it at the softest setting. With the way I drive I tend to have the tail kick out on me. Probably a skill gap there too I can plug. Also don't mind getting the rear sway bar too but that install looks like a pain so just thinking what's the bare minimum I can do for now to get the car more planted. My car isn't lowered anything and only other mods are wider wheels with more aggressive offset on the stock Pilot SSs still.

 

[razorlab]

Looking for some advice from people who probably know more than me and have more experience haha. So I mostly autocross my car (try to do 8-10 events a year, maybe more) but will do 2-4 track days too give or take. I definitely want to limit some of the body roll and oversteer the car has (in my hands). This question was probably asked somewhere but gonna ask it again ?: would just getting a firmer front sway bar help dial in the car more? I known that's definitely subjective but trying to see if there are common trends. I'm thinking of getting the eibach front sway bar and just install it at the softest setting. With the way I drive I tend to have the tail kick out on me. Probably a skill gap there too I can plug. Also don't mind getting the rear sway bar too but that install looks like a pain so just thinking what's the bare minimum I can do for now to get the car more planted. My car isn't lowered anything and only other mods are wider wheels with more aggressive offset on the stock Pilot SSs still.

yes it would help but might give you more understeer at autox

 

[nibble]

Looking for some advice from people who probably know more than me and have more experience haha. So I mostly autocross my car (try to do 8-10 events a year, maybe more) but will do 2-4 track days too give or take. I definitely want to limit some of the body roll and oversteer the car has (in my hands). This question was probably asked somewhere but gonna ask it again ?: would just getting a firmer front sway bar help dial in the car more? I known that's definitely subjective but trying to see if there are common trends. I'm thinking of getting the eibach front sway bar and just install it at the softest setting. With the way I drive I tend to have the tail kick out on me. Probably a skill gap there too I can plug. Also don't mind getting the rear sway bar too but that install looks like a pain so just thinking what's the bare minimum I can do for now to get the car more planted. My car isn't lowered anything and only other mods are wider wheels with more aggressive offset on the stock Pilot SSs still.

Do both front & rear sway bar. when I had just front cusco sway bar, I felt like chasis was bending because rear was giving in while front is not.

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