Another L for the Z, NISMO edition

[BMWAF]

It turns out that even when Nissan charges Supra money for a Z, it still comes up short.

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[tracer bullet]

But not by much. Objectively Supra = winner. Subjectively... I can't totally fault people who simply like the looks of the Z or have always kinda of liked them or wanted one from buying them. It doesn't suck at all. Subjectively each person will have a preference based on one or more reasons whatever they are and stick with it.

Yeah, I know, the Nissan is an updated version of the last gen which is ancient in modern terms. But driving to work or something, do you really notice? Maybe, maybe not.

 

[BMWAF]

But not by much. Objectively Supra = winner. Subjectively... I can't totally fault people who simply like the looks of the Z or have always kinda of liked them or wanted one from buying them. It doesn't suck at all. Subjectively each person will have a preference based on one or more reasons whatever they are and stick with it.

Yeah, I know, the Nissan is an updated version of the last gen which is ancient in modern terms. But driving to work or something, do you really notice? Maybe, maybe not.

I just think the Z has been a complete miss, on paper and on the road. Nissan apologists seem to constantly make excuses for it and this is one of the only comparisons where they have, if politely, just called it without all the "if we change the.. [insert whatever you like] the Z would be better than the Supra.

It's simply not. The end.

 

[mmspider]

I just think the Z has been a complete miss, on paper and on the road. Nissan apologists seem to constantly make excuses for it and this is one of the only comparisons where they have, if politely, just called it without all the "if we change the.. [insert whatever you like] the Z would be better than the Supra.

It's simply not. The end.

The problem is its almost impossible for journalist to give a win to the Z when its a "worse sports car". When in reality I would bet the Z cars overall are actually better everyday road cars. I personally have no problems with them. I actually think they look great as well.

 

[BMWAF]

The problem is its almost impossible for journalist to give a win to the Z when its a "worse sports car". When in reality I would bet the Z cars overall are actually better everyday road cars. I personally have no problems with them. I actually think they look great as well.

I'm not sure how that actually computes. I mean, a Corolla is a way better every day road car than both of them. Smells like the "its all about driver engagement" line that is used when a car is actually slow af.

 

[jmikes]

i'm still waiting for them to make a NISMO edition of anything that's actually worth the price hike.

A slight tune + a good but not great suspension swap + overpriced seats + hit or miss body kit + exhaust you're gonna swap out anyways is not worth paying an extra 30-40% more over the non-nismo.

 

[PikkaGTR]

I hope the Nismo Z will manage to out pace an AUTO BRZ now

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/n...ointed-new-nissan-z-2023-nissan-z-track-test/

 

[J29DB03]

i'm still waiting for them to make a NISMO edition of anything that's actually worth the price hike.

I’m still waiting for them to make a NEW Nissan Z.

Also, hilarious the auto Z is slower to 60mph than the manual Supra.

 

[BMWAF]

If you want a bit of a laugh or want to play a very easy spot the excuse game, there's a support group meeting on the Z forums.

My favorite is the guy who's owned over one hundred and fifty cars and quite rightly suggests people who own cars suffer from confirmation bias.. before, you know.. providing us a text book example of confirmation bias.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[kaj]

The Z is a great car for those nostalgic for model. Nissan should have priced it accordingly. They overestimated the market and paid for it.
Nobody is paying those prices just because they are loyal to the brand.

 

[kaj]

If you want a bit of a laugh or want to play a very easy spot the excuse game, there's a support group meeting on the Z forums.

My favorite is the guy who's owned over one hundred and fifty cars and quite rightly suggests people who own cars suffer from confirmation bias.. before, you know.. providing us a text book example of confirmation bias.

You can't make this shit up.

Is it wrong that after reading that entire thread, what both interested and bothered me the most was people putting apostrophes in their plurals??

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