Dannyvandelft
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The 200 is probably the number for Japan. I would expect the U.S. to get more than 200, or none at all.
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The 200 is probably the number for Japan. I would expect the U.S. to get more than 200, or none at all.
I would agree. I hate seeing rumors like this because it makes me want to wait, but I've already been almost 2 years without a sports car. I plan to buy a 2022 but if this thing gets an s58 i would wait the extra year. Hoping some more concrete leaks come out within the next year.The 200 is probably the number for Japan. I would expect the U.S. to get more than 200, or none at all.
You'd be waiting 2 more years. If it comes out in 2023, it would be released (here) as a 2024 model most likely, in the second half of the year. I waited an extra year for the Refraction (then rumored as Misano) and it sucked lol. I'm so glad the wait is nearly over.I would agree. I hate seeing rumors like this because it makes me want to wait, but I've already been almost 2 years without a sports car. I plan to buy a 2022 but if this thing gets an s58 i would wait the extra year. Hoping some more concrete leaks come out within the next year.
Yeah I agree $112k is unrealistic in the marketplace, I was just converting 12 million yen to USD. If I remember correctly, the GRMN 86 was double the price of the regular 86 so who knows112k seems unrealistic. At that price point you need to be better than the equivalent Porsche (e.g., 911, cayman GT4 with pdk). Both of which would actually be cheaper.
Even with limited production thatās a tough sell. I also really hope this car is not unobtanium. Like I get that they wonāt sell a lot, but I donāt want it to be so limited that dealers charge 50k over... That would instantly turn me off and get me to look elsewhere, especially at that price point.
I dont understand why production would end in 2025. Is that when the agreement between BMW and Toyota is over? Or why stop producing even if they can't agree on higher tier trims?Both good and not so good news here.
Now the Supra may be discontinued with no replacement in the actual year 2025 (thought MY2026 would be the last for production but might this mean we only see it go to MY2025 in actual year 2024....?)?
And the GRMN will only come out at the very end of production? And production will be limited to only 200 units? Also DCT only (which can be expected but itās still a letdown since the new M3/M4 will get a manual option).
All of this makes me really wonder if other Supra markets will get the GRMN at all. Even they do it looks like they will be hard to even find for sale on top of the usual price gouging from dealers.
What people are forgetting is that those are Japanese market prices. Not U.S. market prices. Generally the same car is cheaper here. Question is, will we even get it?To be honest I don't think it's unrealistic... If they make it just to say they made it. As a special edition with lightweight materials. As much as I don't want it to be that much because no way could I afford it but I could see it
Because both BMW and Toyota planned the MKV Supra and Z4 production cycle that way. BMW no longer wants to produce a Z4 and Toyota and Tetsuya Tada donāt want this generation Supra to ever be a hybrid which is a company-wide mandate from MY2026 onward. So for the Supra at least production will end just before their whole lineup goes all-hybrid or offers at least one hybrid trim level for each and every model.I dont understand why production would end in 2025. Is that when the agreement between BMW and Toyota is over? Or why stop producing even if they can't agree on higher tier trims?