Featured 2020 Supra (A90) Reviews Compilation!

Discussion in 'General Supra Topics' started by JT, May 12, 2019.

  1. spamthechan

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    Thank you for this translation! Do you mind doing a translation for the Supra vs M2 vs Cayman vid you posted earlier?
     
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    tbh that one wasn't really good review nor comparison vid. I even show that to Tada-san and even he said "GTS isn't a fair comparison. Compare with S." I just lol'ed at his reply. lol

    Whole vid in the nutshell, Cayman GTS is the best out of 3 and M2 Comp is crap. GTS did everything better than other 2 (of course, it cost almost x2 of Supra). M2C has more power, but suspension isn't great. At the smooth track, it'll perform great. On rough surface street, doesn't plant the tires and loose traction. He went on and on didn't say much good thing bout M2C.
     
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    If the transmission choice was all about the numbers, no performance car would have a manual. I haven't viewed or a read a single review that was disappointed in the performance of the car.
     
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    huh? I'm not complaining about the level of performance but come on nearly all the reviews I've read complained that there wasn't an option. Hell, I would take 100 less HP and have a stick for this Supra. And yes, automatic trans is for paper specs or at least for cars with a bunch of power to handle (GTR, NSX, etc)... Toyota is marketing the Supra very similarly to the GT86, driving feel, not about numbers, etc....their words..

    bryster please go learn how to drive a car outside of gran turismo first before liking posts about automatic transmissions....
     
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    It's not just the ability to hold more power, it's more consistent and much quicker than a human. I'd like to see a manual as well but in the performance segment, they're becoming more and more rare because of the sacrifice to performance.
     
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    They mean exactly as the said, M1. The M1 mid-engined supercar from the 70's. It is technically the only M car with a bespoke chassis.
     
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    Don't you think it's kind of sad that he says don't compare with the GTS? That engine in the Supra is vastly underrated and has one hell of a chassis. Why shouldn't it beat the Porsche? GR Supra should be able to wipe the Cayman S and be toe-to-toe with the GTS and the GT4. The GRMN wiping the GT4 clean.
     
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    The GTS is a $90k car easily, the S is a $70-80k car. I think it's still a win if the GR beats an S.
     
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    ...you're taking my points very oddly...no, it has nothing to do holding power, that wasn't my argument...the problem here is exactly what you are pointing out! "more consistent and much quicker" than a human! we're driving on the streets, so a faster 0-60 time or getting beat by a Mustang isn't going to hurt my manhood so the automatic trans has no benefit for me. You're proving my point exactly, they are worried about paper specs even though they are emphasizing it isn't about the numbers and that this is the most driver-centric Supra ever. This isn't the fastest/strongest car in the segment so the reasons are all just silly AF..

    heh I know what the M1 is, it is just funny they called it a sports car and said it was "recent" lol..sigh what a collaboration
     
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    Not really sad. He’s looking at price & all the features comes in GTS. I think, S is more better comparison for Supra.

    I’m pretty sure Toyota will make GTS & GT4 killer down the road.
     
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    I'm not attacking your preference or opinion (nor am I trying to argue with you), just stating why it's in there (certainly wasn't cost and there's obviously a manual that fits). Toyota wanted to take out the Cayman, so it was very much a numbers game. Additionally, the vast majority of the population isn't capable of driving a manual, putting performance in "everyones" hand was a smarter choice for Toyota.

    I also wonder if the manual available in the Z4 isn't capable of holding the power Toyota expects the engine to make in future iterations?
     
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    I hope this is the begining of porsche vs toyota rivalry in this segment
     
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    there will be no badmouthing the M1, ever, in this thread or others, or people will be banned! :p
     
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