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Analysis, Comments & Reactions from the Web about the new Supra
Now, some older folks remember watching HVI or BMI and seeing him & his GTR. Interview is a bit long, so can skip til 15:00.
TLDR; he pretty much doesn’t like it & tbh, I think that’s fine as an opinion. He helped bring tuning world bigger in 90’s and he have legit point. Seeing, building and driving crazy JDM cars, so he knows what he likes and don’t like.
Do I feel same as him? No. I enjoy new Supra. Don’t think it’s perfect and need to update some of the stuff to be so call “perfect”. I hope GR continue to do annual update, which Tada-san promised.
Having both like & dislike helps improves and update the car to be better... as long as manufacturer listen to the right ppl.
TLDR; he pretty much doesn’t like it & tbh, I think that’s fine as an opinion. He helped bring tuning world bigger in 90’s and he have legit point. Seeing, building and driving crazy JDM cars, so he knows what he likes and don’t like.
Do I feel same as him? No. I enjoy new Supra. Don’t think it’s perfect and need to update some of the stuff to be so call “perfect”. I hope GR continue to do annual update, which Tada-san promised.
Having both like & dislike helps improves and update the car to be better... as long as manufacturer listen to the right ppl.
Dannyvandelft
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No different than a Camaro or Challenger guy talking about the new Mustang 
DesmoSD
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Already discussed here. Just like opinions and a**holes, everyone has one.
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/tired-of-the-bmw-comments.5154/
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/tired-of-the-bmw-comments.5154/
vb22
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DesmoSD
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He mentioned how he didn't like the R35 GTR either and preferred the R34.
I'm not sure where you guys are looking but he's not just some schmuck.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/features/0805-turp-2009-nissan-gtr
https://www.thedrive.com/tuned-af/9660/how-to-tune-a-gt-r-killer-nissan-350z
a90moe
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Well to me he is, bashing on a car without any type of data
Why doesn't he post the stock RS3 and A45 numbers on the Fuji track he was testing in?
"Slow, cant stop and cant turn" in comparion to what exactly? A turbocharged NSX-R ? Or a Nismo GTR?
He starts by flaming BMW so that says it all to me personally
2JZ-No-Sh*t
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2020 Toyota Supra Review: What Toyota’s Engineers Didn’t Get Right
https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/3...review-what-toyotas-engineers-didnt-get-right
https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/3...review-what-toyotas-engineers-didnt-get-right
justbake
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That is not what I said, I just think that he is a victim of nationalist pride.
He says the supra is "slow, cant stop and cant turn." But by what measures? The supra has the same stopping distance as the 2018 GTR from 70-0 in Car and Driver tests and no one says it is can't stop. He says it can't turn but in what regard? He says it is slow and although it definitely isn't the quickest car out there, 4.0s 0-60 is not slow for a stock car. And then says some nonsense about engine displacement as if that means anything.
Obviously the Supra is a disappointment to him, but it can still be a disappointment and a good car at the same time. I get that he is frustrated that the car uses BMW parts, but it is the only new Japanese car out right now. He should be frustrated that other Japanese car companies aren't making any performance cars.
STI hasn't had much change since 2003.
Evo is gone.
Eclipse is gone.
3000GT is gone.
RX-7 is gone.
RX-8 is gone.
S2000 is gone.
CTR although newly introduced here in the US it isn't new to japan.
NSX is new but not well received.
370z is as old as the iPhone.
Q60/Skyline isn't in Japan.
GTR is old and has been updated a few times but he has already mentioned he didn't like it.
(Miata/86/BRZ aren't performance cars so I did not include them in this list but are fun to drive nonetheless)
Toyota doesn't lose here because the Supra is a BMW, it wins because they are releasing a new car when no one else in Japan is.
DesmoSD
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What makes you assume he doesn’t have any data?
I might be going on a whim but I bet he’s been building cars longer then you have. That was his honest opinion, chalk it up and move on. Not everyone is supposed to like the new Supra.
justbake
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I truly respect journalists like this. Not only was he able to point out the good things about the car, he breaks down the bad things and and what makes them bad.
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