Is our paint to soft?

[TheBayA90]

I got a pea sized paint chip on the nose during the first week of ownership.

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[robotvoice]

Swirl marks are going to be in the clear coat ABOVE your paint. It has no thing to do with the thickness of the paint underneath. I've been pretty meticulous with cleaning my car since I got it and there's pretty much zero swirl marks. You do have to be really conscious about how you wash and especially how you dry the car to really cut down on the fine scratches in the clear coat, but that's not anything specific to the Supra.

Paint thickness (or lack thereof) is an issue across the entire car industry and has gotten where it is because of environmental regulations, cost cutting, etc. This is why everyone covers their cars in PPF now because of how easy it is to get rock chips, etc. from just daily driving. People have been bitching about this for many many years and also not anything specific to the Supra.

 

[Andrew4Supra]

Between 4-5.5 mills seems to be the norm for most cars.

I’m a perfectionist so I wrapped my entire Supra in Xpel aka ppf. No regrets and money well spent for an over the top car guy.

Some say they will just repaint it when it gets chipped up… that hurts the value imo and chips even easier with a respray.

Others say… F it and just drive it. Respect either way.

 

[Davidr3]

Between 4-5.5 mills seems to be the norm for most cars.

I’m a perfectionist so I wrapped my entire Supra in Xpel aka ppf. No regrets and money well spent for an over the top car guy.

Some say they will just repaint it when it gets chipped up… that hurts the value imo and chips even easier with a respray.

Others say… F it and just drive it. Respect either way.

When you remove that PPF you're in for a surprise under those chips brotha.

 

[Andrew4Supra]

When you remove that PPF you're in for a surprise under those chips brotha.

~ Not true brotha… I been running ppf on my cars since 1989. I’m an installer and have removed many many kits.

 

[Janice]

Others say… F it and just drive it. Respect either way.

I'm an F it person. I got a small chip and two PDRable dents the first week and it has been a big stress relief after the initial WTF. Still insanely conscience about exterior care, but realize that shit I cant control does happen.

 

[jtsang25]

Swirl marks are going to be in the clear coat ABOVE your paint. It has no thing to do with the thickness of the paint underneath. I've been pretty meticulous with cleaning my car since I got it and there's pretty much zero swirl marks. You do have to be really conscious about how you wash and especially how you dry the car to really cut down on the fine scratches in the clear coat, but that's not anything specific to the Supra.

Paint thickness (or lack thereof) is an issue across the entire car industry and has gotten where it is because of environmental regulations, cost cutting, etc. This is why everyone covers their cars in PPF now because of how easy it is to get rock chips, etc. from just daily driving. People have been bitching about this for many many years and also not anything specific to the Supra.

Sorry when I said paint. I meant paint and clear as a combo. My detailer is hesitant each time he cleans and polishes the car worrying he'll burn through the clear soon. Not much clear either on the car.

 

[jtsang25]

Between 4-5.5 mills seems to be the norm for most cars.

I’m a perfectionist so I wrapped my entire Supra in Xpel aka ppf. No regrets and money well spent for an over the top car guy.

Some say they will just repaint it when it gets chipped up… that hurts the value imo and chips even easier with a respray.

Others say… F it and just drive it. Respect either way.

My repainted hood is higher quality then other parts of the car. When oem portion swirls hood hasn't yet.

 

[FuzzyRev]

@jtsang25 You're not wrong about the fragility of the clear coat on our vehicles. It's tough to say if my 2021 was actually better or the Nitro Yellow just hid surface scratches and swirls better, but the 23 CU Later is almost like refrigerated butter. I realized how soft it is while installing my 'functional' hood vents, when my surgically clean fingers made contact and left a few little lines

 

[Lonestar_Nomad]

When you remove that PPF you're in for a surprise under those chips brotha.

You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.

 

[Grubb]

Concerns about soft paint, and swirl marks could be addressed with a good professional, ceramic coating. That’s what I did and I’m very happy with it on my 23 Absolute Zero paint.

 

[Supraboi7]

Between 4-5.5 mills seems to be the norm for most cars.

I’m a perfectionist so I wrapped my entire Supra in Xpel aka ppf. No regrets and money well spent for an over the top car guy.

Some say they will just repaint it when it gets chipped up… that hurts the value imo and chips even easier with a respray.

Others say… F it and just drive it. Respect either way.

I used to be ocd about keeping it perfect but now I’m more of F it lol. I wash it once or twice a month and wax once or twice year but that’s it. Trying to achieve perfection drove me crazy and PPF is insanely expensive. But i never let it get filthy. Whether clean or dirty it’s still a Supra and looks better than most other cars on the road

 

[jtsang25]

Concerns about soft paint, and swirl marks could be addressed with a good professional, ceramic coating. That’s what I did and I’m very happy with it on my 23 Absolute Zero paint.

I have ceramic coating. It's not 100%. Hard enough contact will still leave something there.

 

[Davidr3]

You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.

you’re delusional, you think ppf is stopping a decent sized rock from doing damage when you’re going 70 in the highway? Laughable

 

[Grubb]

You could always go old school

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