From what I can tell, this is the most common version of the story. I'm always on the lookout for someone who went from the auto to the manual and regrets their decision. Haven't seen one yet despite all the autoboys defending the ZF8.
"Regret" is probably too harsh. I doubt you'll find anyone who regrets it. The Supra is a fantastic car, period. People will prefer one over the other I am sure. But I'll be surprised to hear if someone "regrets" buying either version of the Supra.
Yup. And this is the buyer's version of confirmation bias - I wonder if there's an actual psychological term/phrase for it? - that literally explains the constant worship of the automatic version in the MKV community.
I would instantly regret the manual, because ain't no time for that bullshit- way too slow.Yup. And this is the buyer's version of confirmation bias - I wonder if there's an actual psychological term phrase for it - that literally explains the constant worship of the automatic version in the MKV community.
One could say the same about the constant worship of the manual.Yup. And this is the buyer's version of confirmation bias - I wonder if there's an actual psychological term/phrase for it? - that literally explains the constant worship of the automatic version in the MKV community.
Do you have any idea how close competition races are? Lamo, they're a few thousandths sometimes. There's a reason we spend thousands to save a couple of lbs., or run iceboxes that make the car undrivable on the street, or spend an entire winter working on cars to get them ready for TX2K, or Summer Slam, or WCF, or ships cars across the country for testing when it's too cold at the local track, or try new combinations of turbos/manifolds to the point where we have boxes of brand-new turbos laying around.. Sure, it's partly for fun, but three tenths? That's the difference between number 1 and number 30 qualifier some times.
It's a beautiful car for the class rules. B58 is a strong platform, weight distribution is very good, aftermarket support is fantastic, weight is perfect for slightly heavier classes, 6 cyl so no power adder restrictions... for now.Yeah I get that.. but the Supra is primarily a road car. I'm genuinely not sure why you would buy a Supra for such competitions when there are plenty of faster cars available, if that's your number one concern.
I guess that's the thing.. we are attacking this car from two very different use cases. Sure, if you are eeking out every tenth the manual is useless to you - any manual is useless - I get that. But if you want to drive it on the road, those tenths are meaningless and are a non-argument for pushing the automatic version of any car.
Cognitive dissonance maybe would be a better concept if someone is second guessing their decision and grappling with those thoughts and feelings counter to the decision they actually made. Confirmation bias probably is a bit more fitting since that would be the tendency to look only for information that confirms your belief or attitude and attempts to disregard the information that runs counter to it. It's just human nature to do these things - so to apply the concept in this case AS AN EXAMPLE (please dont take this as my actual thoughts, I'm just applying the concept): people that have automatics are going to justify their decision in every way they can, particularly since some probably wanted a manual to begin with and it wasn't available at the time and try to discount or disregard anything positive they hear about the manual. On the other hand, confirmation bias can run the other way with manual transmission people wondering if they should have just went for the auto for the convenience or the couple tenths of a second of acceleration or around a track but then focusing on driver engagement, etc. There's also a strong in group vs. outgroup thing going on...lots of social psychology concepts at play.Yup. And this is the buyer's version of confirmation bias - I wonder if there's an actual psychological term/phrase for it? - that literally explains the constant worship of the automatic version in the MKV community.
