Race Tracking Your Supra - Information exchange

[kaj]

Yea, enjoy your smoke filled track days.

Haven't had any of those

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[kyippee]

Yea, enjoy your smoke filled track days.

Haha, that's awesome - that's me in my M3. That day was rough. Terrible smoke from nearby fires.

And to stay true to Supra... recent pic from Sonoma Raceway with red

 

[1slow_mk5]

Lap from the Garmin



Pretty easy to offload to a Windows computer

Nice! We will compare lap data next time we’re on track. Ill dm you a few of my laps.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Nice! We will compare lap data next time we’re on track. Ill dm you a few of my laps.

Hat’s off to one fast Supra at Homestead!



That’s way faster than my schloppy driving…. Holy cow
Can’t wait to see you out there again!! Perhaps this weekend with Chin?

Haha, that's awesome - that's me in my M3. That day was rough. Terrible smoke from nearby fires.

And to stay true to Supra... recent pic from Sonoma Raceway with red

Cool looking track, changes in elevation and could hear you scrubbing while staying focused as hell! Love it Met a new buddy last weekend with his GT350. His dad was hauling ass!!!! Passing me in the corners perfectly. Then I turned around and did the same, later in the day, when his son was driving, lol.

There's a reason I'm still in California. And it ain't for the politics or CARB.

So with ya brother! Absolutely love California . Best to stay out of it and just vote your way back in.

 

[Deighvid]

Saw some mentions of Racebox Mini paired with a smartphone app in here. Does anyone still run this or has everyone graduated?

Might pick one up for cheap so was trying to decide if this was a good option

 

[razorlab]

Haha, that's awesome - that's me in my M3. That day was rough. Terrible smoke from nearby fires.

Nice! Thunderhill used to be my home track. I really miss it.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Mega impressed with this senior editor’s article on track setups!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a42951929/race-car-setup-psychology

I personally love a more “twitchy” fast response turn in coming from a S2K. But never thought how annoying it would be in say a 24 hour race or if you were mentally/physically tired.

What’s y’all’s thoughts on the article?

 

[frankenm]

Saw some mentions of Racebox Mini paired with a smartphone app in here. Does anyone still run this or has everyone graduated?

Might pick one up for cheap so was trying to decide if this was a good option

I used one hooked up to Harry’s lap timer and it is very accurate when comparing my official times from my transponder when I run both

hassle of getting it ready for track days stops me from using it… mainly an issue with Harry’s lap timer

 

[Rocksandblues]

Mega impressed with this senior editor’s article on track setups!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a42951929/race-car-setup-psychology

I personally love a more “twitchy” fast response turn in coming from a S2K. But never thought how annoying it would be in say a 24 hour race or if you were mentally/physically tired.

What’s y’all’s thoughts on the article?

It is a decent overview

wish I could turn the steering down on the Zupra. I chase tenths in TT. But don’t make set up changes between tracks or sessions beside air and hp.

that is just on another level above me.

driver mods is still the biggest thing we can do

 

[nibble]

Mega impressed with this senior editor’s article on track setups!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a42951929/race-car-setup-psychology

I personally love a more “twitchy” fast response turn in coming from a S2K. But never thought how annoying it would be in say a 24 hour race or if you were mentally/physically tired.

What’s y’all’s thoughts on the article?

in my experience, to control "loose" car to go faster, you will be closer to the edge of "in control" and "out of control". closer to the edge, faster than "not so loose" car but just slightly off the edge, it'd be much slower. of course off on the other side of the edge, you lose control which you don't want to do. - some other day topic. To be on the edge for prolong time, it will cause fatigue faster. As you already know, just 20 - 30 min. of DE session can be physical. typical sprint race lasts 45 min. ~ 2 hours. Although you will be on stints of 1 ~ 2 hours, within 24 hours, the fatigue does not get completely relieved in between stints.

A comparison you could try if you have time, in GT7, try to drive sprint and endurance model of BMW M6 GR.3 car. very slight difference, but you may notice it driving on Nurburgring 24h configuration for hours.

 

[FLtrackdays]

It is a decent overview

wish I could turn the steering down on the Zupra. I chase tenths in TT. But don’t make set up changes between tracks or sessions beside air and hp.

that is just on another level above me.

driver mods is still the biggest thing we can do

Sorry if I forgot, did you get a baseline lap with a pro yet? I’m still waiting to do that myself for stupid reasons. Like thinking my car needs to be ”setup” perfectly. I can’t wait to see how my car does with a professional in it! And you probably have already done this, but turning off everything may give you that extra tenth of a second you’re looking for

in my experience, to control "loose" car to go faster, you will be closer to the edge of "in control" and "out of control". closer to the edge, faster than "not so loose" car but just slightly off the edge, it'd be much slower. of course off on the other side of the edge, you lose control which you don't want to do. - some other day topic. To be on the edge for prolong time, it will cause fatigue faster. As you already know, just 20 - 30 min. of DE session can be physical. typical sprint race lasts 45 min. ~ 2 hours. Although you will be on stints of 1 ~ 2 hours, within 24 hours, the fatigue does not get completely relieved in between stints.

A comparison you could try if you have time, in GT7, try to drive sprint and endurance model of BMW M6 GR.3 car. very slight difference, but you may notice it driving on Nurburgring 24h configuration for hours.

Again I’m really comfortable with a “loose” car. She still feels a bit heavy to me. And I’m driving with a stock seat. Harder to gain that confidence with my left knee against the door. Also have had some brake bed in issues (rookie mistake), all fixed now. A lot of bad excuses for not being on the edge even more…

 

[Rocksandblues]

Sorry if I forgot, did you get a baseline lap with a pro yet? I’m still waiting to do that myself for stupid reasons. Like thinking my car needs to be ”setup” perfectly. I can’t wait to see how my car does with a professional in it! And you probably have already done this, but turning off everything may give you that extra tenth of a second you’re looking for




Again I’m really comfortable with a “loose” car. She still feels a bit heavy to me. And I’m driving with a stock seat. Harder to gain that confidence with my left knee against the door. Also have had some brake bed in issues (rookie mistake), all fixed now. A lot of bad excuses for not being on the edge even more…

I love how the editor explains from different pro drivers perspectives and dependent on what they are doing. Agree that with HPDE, I’m fine with the physical part. I still workout, do weights and cardio. So I still enjoy it. My max seat time is with Chin Motorsports. Driving the last “happy hour” and draining a tank of gas. My ADHD neurons are still firing that whole hour… but who knows when they’d cut off on track. I sure am drained after a good day of tracking! That’s for sure

Have you considered decaf??

have not gotten a pro time A couple
Pros have driven mine. But only at 8/10ths effort

 

[6SPDA91]

I have read through all 24 pages of this and really appreciate the dialogue, logs and great feedback from veterans of the sport.

Here's a few questions from someone getting ready for their first "official" track day (hopefully these are useful for others getting ready).

1. For the supra, is there anything that MUST be done prior to getting on the track (free track day or otherwise). Ex. Aluminum skid plates, etc.

2. A lot of discussion has been made about the car itself, what about tools that you would recommend bringing?

3. Other must have or nice to have items?

4. I think it was mentioned a few pages back, but is an instructor included in the free track day or just the event?

5. What does a track instructor typically cost?

 

[adawine]

I’ll attempt to answer most of that.

1. Nothing required to hit the track, plenty of stock supras successfully doing track days. Recommended to do, but not necessary, would be brake pads and brake fluid. Drivers mod and just getting out there is the best thing you can do.

2. Tools necessary for a track day are pretty universal. Basics like Jack, Jack stands, impact wrench, lugnut socket, torque wrench, tire pressure gauge, tire inflator, etc. Not a comprehensive list by any stretch. For your first track day, I would just focus on the basics and just get out there. Generally speaking, if you do need to do any work on the car, there will be more experienced people there with the required tools who are more than willing to help.

3. Nice to have items are always personal preference, but a pop up tent, lawn chair, sunscreen, and a cooler with snacks and drinks is always a good idea.

4. Can’t speak on the free NASA track day, I didn’t do mine.

5. A lot of track day clubs provide free instruction with their days for novice groups to get oriented. Check up on Motorsportsreg for local track days and clubs that come through the area and they’ll have in their description if instructors are available or not.


Also, just have fun. First track days can be really intimidating, but they’re a great time and highly addictive.

 

[6SPDA91]

I’ll attempt to answer most of that.

1. Nothing required to hit the track, plenty of stock supras successfully doing track days. Recommended to do, but not necessary, would be brake pads and brake fluid. Drivers mod and just getting out there is the best thing you can do.

2. Tools necessary for a track day are pretty universal. Basics like Jack, Jack stands, impact wrench, lugnut socket, torque wrench, tire pressure gauge, tire inflator, etc. Not a comprehensive list by any stretch. For your first track day, I would just focus on the basics and just get out there. Generally speaking, if you do need to do any work on the car, there will be more experienced people there with the required tools who are more than willing to help.

3. Nice to have items are always personal preference, but a pop up tent, lawn chair, sunscreen, and a cooler with snacks and drinks is always a good idea.

4. Can’t speak on the free NASA track day, I didn’t do mine.

5. A lot of track day clubs provide free instruction with their days for novice groups to get oriented. Check up on Motorsportsreg for local track days and clubs that come through the area and they’ll have in their description if instructors are available or not.


Also, just have fun. First track days can be really intimidating, but they’re a great time and highly addictive.

Thanks. Definitely great answers which should keep in the spirit of the thread.

Gotta figure out when I'm doing my track day still.

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