not_howard
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For a facelift to occur I would think it has to be this upcoming model year. Otherwise, it will just be too late.
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If they're going to modify and reuse the current chassis and drivetrain, my money would be on BMW.I wonder who would make it? Would Toyota produce it or still have BMW make it?
correct me if Iâm wrong but I believe it did the ring 6 seconds faster than the A90. So Iâd say itâs subjectiveI never said any thing bad about the FL5. I just posted actual data. Sorry that you didn't get what you wanted.
So Iâd say itâs subjective
no, it does. Different tracks, different drivers, opinion based Razor, hence the term subjective.
You have horrible reading comprehension. At no point have I voiced an opinion on the FL5 in this discussion. You're lost in the sauce of your own red mist.no, it does. Different tracks, different drivers, opinion based Razor, hence the term subjective.
go back and read sir. At no point did I say either car was better. Someone made aYou have horrible reading comprehension. At no point have I voiced an opinion on the FL5 in this discussion. You're lost in the sauce of your own red mist.
He wasn't being defensive. He posted facts, not an opinion. Track times is quantifiable facts that the supra is faster than the fl5. Razor didn't call it an economy car. Reading is key.go back and read sir. At no point did I say either car was better. Someone made a
statement about cross shopping the cars and referred to the civic as an economy family hauler with an upgrades drivetrain. The fact of the matter is that both are extremely capable vehicles. The fl5 was made for the track and can be had for$14k less with similar performance characteristics. The fact that itâs 4door or fwd is irrelevant. I was simply stating that it would have no problem hanging with or even outperforming the A90 on a track. Youâre the one posting lap times and being defensive.Every time you comment you kinda come off condescending. If thatâs just you, then cool. But the post wasnât intended to be a pissing match between the cars.
Again, your reading comprehension is really bad. Every time you reply you prove it more and more.go back and read sir. At no point did I say either car was better. Someone made a
statement about cross shopping the cars and referred to the civic as an economy family hauler with an upgrades drivetrain. The fact of the matter is that both are extremely capable vehicles. The fl5 was made for the track and can be had for$14k less with similar performance characteristics. The fact that itâs 4door or fwd is irrelevant. I was simply stating that it would have no problem hanging with or even outperforming the A90 on a track. Youâre the one posting lap times and being defensive.Every time you comment you kinda come off condescending. If thatâs just you, then cool. But the post wasnât intended to be a pissing match between the cars.
Yes and I corrected my statement. Itâs irrelevant because itâs got nothing to do with my initial post. It wasnât about which was faster. Heâs got a habit of turning posts into debates and arguments.He wasn't being defensive. He posted facts, not an opinion. Track times is quantifiable facts that the supra is faster than the fl5. Razor didn't call it an economy car. Reading is key.
For the former, would BMW continue the partnership? It doesn't seem like BMW wants the Z4 to live.Bestcar is reporting the next gen will be a heavily updated version of the current model. Think along the lines of the new Mustang and Camry.
However, @A70TTR and @PerformanceSound are hinting at an in-house V6 turbo Hybrid A100.