Wagner Tuning Manifold....Thoughts?

[Z4m40i]

this is my Spicey map. Usually no more than -3 in a couple cylinders on a straight, and usually correct throughout the pull. Rarely do I ever see up to -6.

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[AJRMKV]

What do you want to see that aren't in those screenshots?

I can't identify the IAT line with that color scheme. Maybe it's just me

 

[razorlab]

Here is another piece of data that shows what a good manifold can do.

13 laps in, every lap full effort because I was just staying out. Here is the FULL 13th lap.

IAT 118 at the end of the straight starting the 13th lap and IAT is 118 at the end of the straight after the full 13th lap.

And here is the FULL SESSION of 13 laps.

105 IAT at the beginning and 118 IAT at the end. A good manifold does this. Consistency.

 

[rottmore]

Have logs on my EOS, but they won't be helpful.
Car wasn't pushed hard under track conditions.
Logs are short, back2back, WOT pulls for a street tune.
Forgot to log ambient temps, but pretty sure it was around ~87* that day. Have no idea what it was that day.

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6715b6610b2f342232345755
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe2f0b2f342232346a6e
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe300b2f342232346a6f
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe304e2cc30a4947535f

 

[AJRMKV]

Have logs on my EOS, but they won't be helpful.
Car wasn't pushed hard under track conditions.
Logs are short, back2back, WOT pulls for a street tune.
Forgot to log ambient temps, but pretty sure it was around ~87* that day.

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6715b6610b2f342232345755
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe2f0b2f342232346a6e
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe300b2f342232346a6f
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe304e2cc30a4947535f

That’s really good. Do you have a headlight delete?

 

[razorlab]

Have logs on my EOS, but they won't be helpful.
Car wasn't pushed hard under track conditions.
Logs are short, back2back, WOT pulls for a street tune.
Forgot to log ambient temps, but pretty sure it was around ~87* that day.

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6715b6610b2f342232345755
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe2f0b2f342232346a6e
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe300b2f342232346a6f
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6716fe304e2cc30a4947535f

Def wasn't 87F ambient if your IAT's are below that. That is impossible unless you are running an ice chest.

Also, looks like you are maxing out your injector SOI in the higher rpm. (fill limit 8) and your AFR is a bit lean. Be careful!

IAT looks decent though, my wagner only goes up a degree or so during a single 5th gear pull.

This is in some cooler weather but same pattern in 80F+

 

[rottmore]

That’s really good. Do you have a headlight delete?

Not at all, but forgot to mention I'm running a DAW6466, ID1050, and catless dp. If the IAT's are that great then ignore my ambient temps comment.

 

[rottmore]

Def wasn't 87F ambient if your IAT's are below that. That is impossible unless you are running an ice chest.

shit....... my log-list is is a complete mess and when looking again, one log is from a different date, Could have sworn it was in the 80s that day though but youre probably right with my ambient temps. I Shouldn't have guesstimated that datapoint, but i honestly didn't think people looked at ambient temps when comparing manifold performance. Only thing i got right was that my logs wont be helpful HA! I definitely want to relog and see how a single pass does during a road course.

 

[AJRMKV]

From what I read over the past few days, the issues people are having with Wagner seem to be related to improper install and bleed.

I spoke to them yesterday and they claim their manifold is a single pass with a dual pass coolant.

whereas EOS is single pass with single pass coolant

 

[rottmore]

Also, looks like you are maxing out your injector SOI in the higher rpm. (fill limit 8) and your AFR is a bit lean. Be careful!

Absolutely, I dropped the tuner months ago. Back on stage 2 OTS ATM. Definitely don't take Shawn's advice on which tuner to pick for his turbos lol

 

[AJRMKV]

Absolutely, I dropped the tuner months ago. Back on stage 2 OTS ATM. Definitely don't take Shawn's advice on which tuner to pick for his turbos lol

Are you on MHD?

 

[rottmore]

Are you on MHD?

sorry, let me list what i have on the car.

-bootmod3 customROM v1
-Reflex+
-ID1050XDS
-catless dp
-3"~3.5" AWE Chinese copycat exhaust
-DAWs 6466

 

[razorlab]

Are you on MHD?

The logs are BM3

 

[razorlab]

Definitely don't take Shawn's advice on which tuner to pick for his turbos lol

I wouldn't take Shawn's advice on ANYTHING.

 

[AJRMKV]

The logs are BM3

Lack of sleep and coffee...

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