justbake
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Okay?sure but many of us didn't care about what direction BMW was heading Toyota needed nothing from BMW except to merely make this project cheaper for themselves
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Okay?sure but many of us didn't care about what direction BMW was heading Toyota needed nothing from BMW except to merely make this project cheaper for themselves
tbf,they needed the straight sixsure but many of us didn't care about what direction BMW was heading Toyota needed nothing from BMW except to merely make this project cheaper for themselves
think you're confused? SS900 was asking why the bigger company (Toyota) needed to borrow from the smaller one (BMW) and your response was what BMW needed from Toyota.Okay?
It needed an inline 6think you're confused? SS900 was asking why the bigger company (Toyota) needed to borrow from the smaller one (BMW) and your response was what BMW needed from Toyota.
It needed an inline 6
tbf? how many times have we been through this, has nothing to do with "needing" BMW in order to create an inline 6...it was all due to money...Toyota could have retooled one of their existing plants, hell they were still making the V12 Century engine which IIRC was originally developed from the JZ series. Obviously this is all crying over spilled milk, and we can throw in the "it would have never happened without the partnership" cop out but we also don't need more apologists.. Meanwhile Toyota is going to pour their money into a car none of us can afford (GR SS)tbf,they needed the straight six
I never said they needed BMW, I said they needed an inline 6. They could have done it without them thats for sure. BMW could have also done the other without Toyota. But why when you can combine minds to make the best of both worldstbf? how many times have we been through this, has nothing to do with "needing" BMW in order to create an inline 6...it was all due to money...Toyota could have retooled one of their existing plants, hell they were still making the V12 Century engine which IIRC was originally developed from the JZ series. Obviously this is all crying over spilled milk, and we can throw in the "it would have never happened without the partnership" cop out but we also don't need more apologists.. Meanwhile Toyota is going to pour their money into a car none of us can afford (GR SS)
because the GRSS is a hybridtbf? how many times have we been through this, has nothing to do with "needing" BMW in order to create an inline 6...it was all due to money...Toyota could have retooled one of their existing plants, hell they were still making the V12 Century engine which IIRC was originally developed from the JZ series. Obviously this is all crying over spilled milk, and we can throw in the "it would have never happened without the partnership" cop out but we also don't need more apologists.. Meanwhile Toyota is going to pour their money into a car none of us can afford (GR SS)
Once again.... ignoring what you said because thatās a whole new conversation, my comment was not about the needs of bmw. why would Toyota, the bigger and richer company would need bmw in order to build a Supra? The answer is to save on money because they didnāt care to develop anything of their own. They are bigger, richer, yet canāt do what the smaller companies do.They are all actually directly related
Have you driven a modern BMW besides the 2 series? They cant get the steering right at all. The E89 Z4 is a great example of a car that is neither good handling or sporty. They approached Tada, allegedly, after the FRS reveal.
Audi and Mercedes uses electric turbos, Bmw needs to compete and Toyota has great hybrid tech.
Bmw is 100 HP short of the C63 AMG in their M3/M4
I cant explain something to someone who isn't willing to listen. You can just scroll up and read why if you were willing to listenOnce again.... ignoring what you said because thatās a whole new conversation, why comment was not about the needs of bmw. why would Toyota, the bigger and richer company would need bmw in order to build a Supra? The answer is to save on money because they didnāt care to develop anything of their own. They are bigger, richer, yet canāt do what the smaller companies do.
Youāll probably still wonāt get it.... record is skipping.
"Can't" is your opinion which you like to mix in subtly with what you like to pass as fact. Toyota wanted this partnership and they got it.Once again.... ignoring what you said because thatās a whole new conversation, why comment was not about the needs of bmw. why would Toyota, the bigger and richer company would need bmw in order to build a Supra? The answer is to save on money because they didnāt care to develop anything of their own. They are bigger, richer, yet canāt do what the smaller companies do.
Youāll probably still wonāt get it.... record is skipping.
well looking at your list of what BMW was lacking from your previous post, I'm not so sure I would consider them as being "best" in anything to collaborate on lol...meanwhile Mercedes introduces a new series of inline 6 engines... Just upsetting that Toyota couldn't believe in themselves a little more and take total accountability on this project.I never said they needed BMW, I said they needed an inline 6. They could have done it without them thats for sure. BMW could have also done the other without Toyota. But why when you can combine minds to make the best of both worlds
I agree it is disappointing but we can't change thatwell looking at your list of what BMW was lacking from your previous post, I'm not so sure I would consider them as being "best" in anything to collaborate on lol...meanwhile Mercedes introduces a new series of inline 6 engines... Just upsetting that Toyota couldn't believe in themselves a little more and take total accountability on this project.
You do realize that you are the only one that says/claims completely differently from all other sources yet not a single word or hint from Toyota is backing up a single thing you claim.@SS900,
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There is so much more to it, but if you want to believe these garbage automotive media sources then by all means.