A91 & Recent 2021 Impossible to Tune / ECU manufactured after 2020/6 is locked? [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

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your on the bubble. A tuner can connect and know for sure.
MIne is the same 06/06/2020 date. I thought these were locked. Does anyone with a 6-6-20 date on DME have an unlocked one?
 

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Saw this on Instagram, donā€™t know anything about the company or how legit their claims are but figured Iā€™d share. Almost sounds like theyā€™re sending the DME overseas with the turnaround times. Hopefully someone with more knowledge on the subject can investigate.

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There is a handful of tuners doing that method where they ship your ECU to like russia or somewhere in Europe, Most people are just waiting for an actual unlock to come out without shipping the ECU. Not worth the potential of losing the ECU imo
 

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There is a handful of tuners doing that method where they ship your ECU to like russia or somewhere in Europe, Most people are just waiting for an actual unlock to come out without shipping the ECU. Not worth the potential of losing the ECU imo
Yeah I just found it interesting that theyā€™re claiming they can flash through OBD, from what I understand only bench flashing has been successful so far?
 

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I think with the previous method tuners would send your ECU out with a tune file. There was no way to adjust the tune without sending it back out with another tune file. This method looks like they send your ECU out and it gets UNLOCKED. Then, they can tune it with OBD - much like normal tuning.
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Theyā€™re sending theirs to Femtoevo just like everyone else.
 

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Theyā€™re sending theirs to Femtoevo just like everyone else.
I figured, but instead of just having the tune written to the ECU these guys are getting them unlocked and tuning it themselves. Looks like they are shipping them out to get unlocked, not tuned.
 

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Theyā€™re sending theirs to Femtoevo just like everyone else.
Yeah this is what I was figuring but I was under the impression that Femtoevo was just bench flashing and it wasnā€™t an actual OBD unlock.
 

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I figured, but instead of just having the tune written to the ECU these guys are getting them unlocked and tuning it themselves. Looks like they are shipping them out to get unlocked, not tuned.
Hopefully we are getting closer!

Mission still hasnā€™t said anything publicly since the last update and Femtoevo is the only option but via international shipping.

Wishing this post wonā€™t be flagged as misinformation.
 

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Hopefully we are getting closer!

Mission still hasnā€™t said anything publicly since the last update and Femtoevo is the only option but via international shipping.

Wishing this post wonā€™t be flagged as misinformation.
It almost sounds like Femtoevo accomplished what Mission was trying to. Decided to reach out to Femtoevo to get a better understanding, according to them OBD flashing is possible after having them bench unlock the DME but you have to use their software to flash. Wonā€™t work with ecutek, mhd or bm3. So they figured out the method and locked up their IP, seemingly.
 

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By the time I am ready to tune I'm sure others will have a working solution as well. So, I have time to wait...impatiently...
 

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Thinks are kinda crazy right now.. The next few weeks things should be clearer
 
 
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