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More interview with head honcho, part 2

- still Z34 chassis code but 70-80% new parts
- after figuring out if they should make it Z35 or not, they considered the costs and decided to throw more money where the customers would appreciate.
- 370Z ABS issue has been fully revised to avoid the freezing effect from the 370z when understeering.
- head honcho figured the R32-4 period skyline GT-R kinda "turn up the boost and go faster" is fun.
- he likes to think the theme behind Z and GTR be "beauty and the beast". Z looks good, responds well to driver as a "dance partner", but the GTR is the beast, go fast first, response and driving involvement later.
- Z is supposed to give you a lot of margin for error, everything has a big window to respond to. Where you get the correct feedback and information to play with, it doesn't break away suddenly and so you can play to your own tempo with this chassis.
- it's the same powertrain as the 400R or the Q50 RS but it is specifically tuned with an additional recirculating valve to avoid the turbo slow down between shifts and over throttle closures. This is very much something that's introduced with the manual transmission to this engine package.
- suspension is tuned for street and occasional drifts but it's not really geared to go fast (head honcho said it himself) at an engineering standpoint it's not as well tuned for lap times as Nissan could do. (I'd think that's Nismo's home turf)
- new transmission has a Magnesium housing (?) To shoulder the torque while keeping the 9 speed transmission weighing the same as a 7 speed form before.
- head honcho looked at the camera and said "if you tune it, it's your responsibility, ok? "
- "it's pretty heavy, why?" "The engine alone is 100kg heavier than the VQ37HR, ya know?"
- with that in mind, Nissan chassis tuning is made to be as mild as possible even with very wide tires. That's the Nissan way. More people have more fun that way. (If people reviewing it say it's not as sharp as an s2000 civic type R, Porsche 718 or whatever, know that it's on purpose)
- DAS steer by wire is not to go onto the car in any way. The DAS was a standard equipment in japanese skyline (Q50) meant for japanese consumption because the starter occupied the space where a right hand drive steering shaft would go where the starter would go. They made a convoluted linkage system to connect the steering wheel back to the steering rack. This was very much an engineering requirement because they wanted a mechanical connection between the wheel and the other one in front of you.
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Wow that motor is heavy as shit! I have a hard time believing its 100kg(220lbs) more heavier but if it is expect the Z to have a worse F/R balance than the 370z at 55/45(53/47 with driver) and the Supra at 52/48(50/50 with driver).
 

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So not as fast, not as responsive, and not as sharp..... what a "sportscar" :rofl:
It's a GT. Not a crazy ass asphalt eating monster like the GR Supra is.

I prefer the GR Supra, but your innate hate for this car is just childish at this point.
 

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It's a GT. Not a crazy ass asphalt eating monster like the GR Supra is.

I prefer the GR Supra, but your innate hate for this car is just childish at this point.
They are slowly leaking that out. Coincidental to the upcoming official release. The 'manual' will overcome that??? LOL - The hype is actually the community behind it on the Z forums. Not a surprise but the thinking and impressions there are all SUPRA KILLER - YOU OWN A BMW not a SUPRA etc etc etc.

So............................its just entertaining to the see the 'spin' on this coming out and how that community will manage it. Their hope was a Nissan sportscar to best that little fake Supra-BMW.

It will be a nice GT but in reality the last thing most Z's will want to see is a 3 liter Supra near them it appears. Any spec obsessed Nissan Bro's might be in for a shock? More weight, poorly distributed, smaller tire width etc. On the surface the physics dont say Z.

More to follow when its tested of course............
 

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the Z was beautiful and classic in the 90’s and like all guys that goes through a slump, gains weight and let themselves go. *shoutout to RDC1.
Back in the 90’s, I remember the president of the Z Club of Texas calling my Z32 a couch on wheels (he owned a 240z).
 

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They are slowly leaking that out. Coincidental to the upcoming official release. The 'manual' will overcome that??? LOL - The hype is actually the community behind it on the Z forums. Not a surprise but the thinking and impressions there are all SUPRA KILLER - YOU OWN A BMW not a SUPRA etc etc etc.

So............................its just entertaining to the see the 'spin' on this coming out and how that community will manage it. Their hope was a Nissan sportscar to best that little fake Supra-BMW.

It will be a nice GT but in reality the last thing most Z's will want to see is a 3 liter Supra near them it appears. Any spec obsessed Nissan Bro's might be in for a shock? More weight, poorly distributed, smaller tire width etc. On the surface the physics dont say Z.

More to follow when its tested of course............
Exactly! Don't mind @F1 Silver Arrows he's still salty from Abu Dhabi.

Speaking of which, I don't hate the Z. At all. Sure it's ugly as sin, in principle an old decrepit woman with too many botox injections and plastic surgeries, but they have their place too.
 
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It's a GT. Not a crazy ass asphalt eating monster like the GR Supra is.

I prefer the GR Supra, but your innate hate for this car is just childish at this point.
P.S. the definition of a GT is being a "crazy ass asphalt eating monster" that's literally what they're for.

And imagine that, an automotive forum where people talk crap about the "competition"... unheard of! :rofl:
 

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P.S. the definition of a GT is being a "crazy ass asphalt eating monster" that's literally what they're for.

And imagine that, an automotive forum where people talk crap about the "competition"... unheard of! :rofl:
GT = GRAND TOURING = Needs Asphalt LOL :)

Yeah the crap talking is fun. The Z is interesting overall. The front end look and the required black roof with so many colors is ridiculous. Not sure why they want to push black on 80% of the colors.

Hopefully they insulated it a bit more. The road noise on the 370 was absurd.
 

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