The Development Story of the MKV Supra

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Nothing about this car resembles a MKIV, MKIII, MKII and the MKI Supra.
The side profile looks a lot like the 2000GT, which is the predecessor to the Celica Supra. So should the A80 have not been called "Supra" because it sure as hell doesn't look anything like the A40, A60, and A70.
 
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Range rover is owned by ford, and Tata Motors is a jointed company who is known for producing the cheapest car in the world. And I don't know what this car is called lol.




That will never be me. Toyota never put any effort in to this car. The MKV looks great in white but many many small things have turned me off about this being called a Supra. Nothing about this car resembles a MKIV, MKIII, MKII and the MKI Supra. Because its co-development is so severely BMW companies like HKS, Titan, RealStreet, for example are shit out of luck simply because the B58 is already been in production for 4 years now. Not to mention suspension, differential, exhaust and just about everything else on the chassis is littered with BMW stamps. This had been Toyota's biggest mistake, lead by a man who was only been in office since 2009. Mr. Toyoda does not care about the legacy of the Supra.

Land Rover hasn’t been owned by Ford in a long time, it’s owned by Tata motors.
 

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That will never be me. Toyota never put any effort in to this car. The MKV looks great in white but many many small things have turned me off about this being called a Supra. Nothing about this car resembles a MKIV, MKIII, MKII and the MKI Supra. Because its co-development is so severely BMW companies like HKS, Titan, RealStreet, for example are shit out of luck simply because the B58 is already been in production for 4 years now. Not to mention suspension, differential, exhaust and just about everything else on the chassis is littered with BMW stamps. This had been Toyota's biggest mistake, lead by a man who was only been in office since 2009. Mr. Toyoda does not care about the legacy of the Supra.
Is that what you think?
 

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That will never be me. Toyota never put any effort in to this car. The MKV looks great in white but many many small things have turned me off about this being called a Supra. Nothing about this car resembles a MKIV, MKIII, MKII and the MKI Supra. Because its co-development is so severely BMW companies like HKS, Titan, RealStreet, for example are shit out of luck simply because the B58 is already been in production for 4 years now. Not to mention suspension, differential, exhaust and just about everything else on the chassis is littered with BMW stamps. This had been Toyota's biggest mistake, lead by a man who was only been in office since 2009. Mr. Toyoda does not care about the legacy of the Supra.
Great! Then save up at least $60k for a 1994 TT 6spd that will have “50k original miles” (disconnect of the digital odo that most MKIV owners have already done on their cars) with more than 70% discontinued parts and a discontinued Getrag with grinding 3rd gear and enjoy it til’ the wheels fall off. I mean, what more can I say to you? Oh, just swap in a CD009 or T56 Magnum you say?? Well, that doesn’t make it a “real” Supra anymore....right?....since we are on the topic.

Myself....patiently waiting. :D

HKS, Titan, Real Street, etc... all have families and employees to feed. You bet your ass the MKV will be one of their cars that will be heavily supported!
 
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Great! Then save up at least $60k for a 1994 TT 6spd that will have “50k original miles” (disconnect of the digital odo that most MKIV owners have performed) with more than 70% discontinued parts and a discontinued Getrag with grinding 3rd gear and enjoy it til’ the wheels fall off. I mean, what more can I say to you? Oh, just swap in a CD009 or T56 Magnum you say?? Well, that doesn’t make it a “real” Supra anymore....right?....since we are on the topic.

Myself....patiently waiting. :D

HKS, Titan, Real Street, etc... all have mouths and employees to feed outside of work. You bet your ass the MKV will be one of their cars that will be heavily supported!
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Guff, I wanted to ask this: Where can I read up more on claim that Toyota had to test the durability of the BMW motor by sending it back to Japan and having parts that didn't meet Toyota standards revised?

This was something I wanted an answer to since Toyota wanted to keep their reputation for reliability. I'm glad someone like you found an answer for it.

I'm just curious to see how that was done! :)
Here's a good article from Moto Miwa that references Toyota's quality approach. Tada-San elaborated on this in an interview with us as well.

https://club4ag.com/chief-engineer-...gh-a-viewpoint-of-joint-development-with-bmw/

As time goes on we will see more information about the development story, no doubt. If you guys are patient, there's a lot of information in the Japanese interviews generally, moreso than the English ones. So bust out the Google translate and/or get a Japanese friend lol.
 

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Here's a good article from Moto Miwa that references Toyota's quality approach. Tada-San elaborated on this in an interview with us as well.

https://club4ag.com/chief-engineer-...gh-a-viewpoint-of-joint-development-with-bmw/

As time goes on we will see more information about the development story, no doubt. If you guys are patient, there's a lot of information in the Japanese interviews generally, moreso than the English ones. So bust out the Google translate and/or get a Japanese friend lol.
Hey @Guff, do you know why Toyota didn't release any info on their involvement regarding the development process earlier? I feel like this would've saved a lot of arguments regarding "this is strictly a BMW sourced engine with no Toyota involvement". Or did Tada-San not think this would be such a big controversy?
 
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Hey @Guff, do you know why Toyota didn't release any info on their involvement regarding the development process earlier? I feel like this would've saved a lot of arguments regarding "this is strictly a BMW sourced engine with no Toyota involvement". Or did Tada-San not think this would be such a big controversy?
I think Toyota generally keeps to themselves until the car is done; seems to be the case for all of their recent projects. That being said, I know nothing about their marketing plan or timeline, but I'm sure they expected a certain amount of heat, considering the Zx6 platform had pretty much the same initial reaction.
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