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    Here's a good article from Moto Miwa that references Toyota's quality approach. Tada-San elaborated on this in an interview with us as well.

    https://club4ag.com/chief-engineer-...gh-a-viewpoint-of-joint-development-with-bmw/

    As time goes on we will see more information about the development story, no doubt. If you guys are patient, there's a lot of information in the Japanese interviews generally, moreso than the English ones. So bust out the Google translate and/or get a Japanese friend lol.
     
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    Hey @Guff, do you know why Toyota didn't release any info on their involvement regarding the development process earlier? I feel like this would've saved a lot of arguments regarding "this is strictly a BMW sourced engine with no Toyota involvement". Or did Tada-San not think this would be such a big controversy?
     
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    I think Toyota generally keeps to themselves until the car is done; seems to be the case for all of their recent projects. That being said, I know nothing about their marketing plan or timeline, but I'm sure they expected a certain amount of heat, considering the Zx6 platform had pretty much the same initial reaction.
     
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    Like the quality of the video. Very much so but I’ll be honest it’s very reliant on the word of one man (all your sources I believe stem from him). That man being Tada. He is going to say whatever it takes seeing as his career rests on the outcome of this car.

    Personally I feel even if Toyota sent back engines to be tested that they’ve been used. BMW came out publically stating their car was going to be quicker and the worst part is it/ true.

    I think BMW had all the power in this relationship
     
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    Tada San retired 7 years ago actually haha. And my references are listed in the video description. Believe whatever you like.
     
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    Tetsuya Tada is the chief engineer....

    Reputation is very important in Japanese culture regardless of retirement..

    Your references are nearly all interviews with him...

    No other source.
     
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    Lol? I’m honestly surprised how many people on this forum actually hit “post reply” when they type all this useless shit. This isn’t rocket science, it’s word of mouth. And if the chief engineer is saying such about the engine then he is saying such. Obviously any adult should take word of mouth with a grain of salt. However, this is the information we have. Like Guff said, believe what you want.

    The BMW has more horsepower and costs more money, who cares? What does that tell you about the balance of power in a relationship? Nothing.
     
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    #68 Feb 6, 2019
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    Mayasuki Kai, Shigeki Toyomama, Alain Dujardin, Adrian Von Hooydonk, and Florian Dietrich are all also sources if you care to know.

    Again, it's far more multifaceted than you or I could comprehend, but we get to make our mildly informed blanket statements on the internet while they don't, so I guess we know best? :thumbsup:
     
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    If Tada San retired 7 years ago, how was he able to help build this car? Didn't this car take 7 years to build? I'm curious as to how that retirement works lol.
     
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    Retire from Toyota and take a contract to finish the job if I remember correctly
     
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    Basically, Akio said "Nah dude you ain't done yet" and here we are.
     
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    Well I hope they paid him handsomely lol. He aged quite a lot since the GT86.
     
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    ASMR video when?
     
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    So Toyoda san literally did this:rofl:
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    One of the best paying jobs I have ever worked as an engineer was after my department (and by extension yours truly) was let go for being "redundant and expendable". They then brought me back, less than 48 hours later, under a very lucrative contract as a private consultant.
     
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