Pros and Cons of Selling

[DEupra]

The 2j is a cast iron legend amongst legends. Fuck that shitty fast and the furious movie. Both of your opinions are null and void.

Maybe someone with more motorsport history knowledge could jump in, I think the MKIV and 2JZ were already making big noise in the drag world and also Japanese motorsports. I think people are giving the fast and furious a little too much credit and not giving the 2JZ it’s flowers…sure maybe the movies have bumped the average price by an extra 10-20% premium, but it’s not like the MKIV would have been forgotten.

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[BMWAF]

Maybe someone with more motorsport history knowledge could jump in, I think the MKIV and 2JZ were already making big noise in the drag world and also Japanese motorsports. I think people are giving the fast and furious a little too much credit and not giving the 2JZ it’s flowers…sure maybe the movies have bumped the average price by an extra 10-20% premium, but it’s not like the MKIV would have been forgotten.

It was literally a sales flop.

 

[DEupra]

It was literally a sales flop.

Probably so were the rx-7, nsx. LFA too but maybe harder to compare that with its price tag and different era. Even the MKV sales are pretty lackluster.

 

[Tacoma714]

These cars aren't going to appreciate for decades, if anything. The only way it will happen quicker is if EVs completely take over and ICE vehicles are long gone. But other than that, don't count on the MKV to go up in value. That's not a good reason to hold on to one of these vehicles.

Or if the MKV is somehow in an upcoming film that becomes a classic which is unlikely. I don’t think the MKV will skyrocket like the MKIV did leading into and during Covid’s inflation. I’m actually shocked the MKV prices and values have remained sturdy thus far.

 

[BMWAF]

Probably so were the rx-7, nsx. LFA too but maybe harder to compare that with its price tag and different era. Even the MKV sales are pretty lackluster.

Firstly, the NSX was a supercar in its own right; as was the LFA. They were priced way beyond the means of the average punter and Honda/Toyota were essentially aiming to entice Ferrari and Lamborghini owners with.. reliability. These Japanese car companies learned the expensive lesson that at this tier, a Ferrarri in the garage is worth far more than a Toyota/Honda on the road.

As for the MKIV, it doesn't (and never has) lit a candle to those two cars. It was an average sports/GT car that happened to make it big through pop-culture, most significantly its appearance in those shitty Fast and Furious movies.

 

[DEupra]

Firstly, the NSX was a supercar in its own right; as was the LFA. They were priced way beyond the means of the average punter and Honda/Toyota were essentially aiming to entice Ferrari and Lamborghini owners with.. reliability. These Japanese car companies learned the expensive lesson that at this tier, a Ferrarri in the garage is worth far more than a Toyota/Honda on the road.

As for the MKIV, it doesn't (and never has) lit a candle to those two cars. It was an average sports/GT car that happened to make it big through pop-culture, most significantly its appearance in those shitty Fast and Furious movies.

Giving the Fast and Furious too much credit is oversimplifying the MKIV’s value. If the 2JZ engine wasn’t as good as it is, the MKIV wouldn’t be close to what it’s worth today. If we’re taking the NSX out of the comparison, the MKIV is the best Japanese sports car of its era. And the MKIV is Toyota’s last real effort to make a sports car which probably matters for car collectors and less so for fast and furious fans.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Firstly, the NSX was a supercar in its own right; as was the LFA. They were priced way beyond the means of the average punter and Honda/Toyota were essentially aiming to entice Ferrari and Lamborghini owners with.. reliability. These Japanese car companies learned the expensive lesson that at this tier, a Ferrarri in the garage is worth far more than a Toyota/Honda on the road.

As for the MKIV, it doesn't (and never has) lit a candle to those two cars. It was an average sports/GT car that happened to make it big through pop-culture, most significantly its appearance in those shitty Fast and Furious movies.

Yeah not something you’d find on the average car collectors buying list.

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[BMWAF]

Giving the Fast and Furious too much credit is oversimplifying the MKIV’s value. If the 2JZ engine wasn’t as good as it is, the MKIV wouldn’t be close to what it’s worth today. If we’re taking the NSX out of the comparison, the MKIV is the best Japanese sports car of its era. And the MKIV is Toyota’s last real effort to make a sports car which probably matters for car collectors and less so for fast and furious fans.

If the 2JZ was the main reason for the MKIVs popularity, why aren't all these other shitboxes up in lights? I'm just throwing it out there, but I think just maybe it has something to do with them not being in a lame movie franchise.

 

[R1Outcast]

Well, to begin, you sold the RX7 REALLY cheap since I bought mine more than 11 years ago and it was 15K and was a cheap price. If your car was in good shape, it should have been around 20K at least.
But that price difference apart, what made cars so expensive in the last 4 years was COVID and all the shortages that it brought since many cars that would have never go up in price, got more expensive than buying a new model. And yes that might show how unexpected circumstances can happen, but COVID and its aftermath was a really rare occurrence and prices are slowly going down again and I would not be surprised if only the rarest, most special cars will keep that high price and the rest will go down to what they were before the pandemic.
What I think about the Supra is that it may not go up in price (at least much) but I hope it retains its price pretty good, kind of what a Porsche 911 does, so basically depreciate very little. I hope

It was in decent condition. Not showroom or anything, but it looked good for a 20 year old car. But my point is the fact that cars can, in fact, increase, or at least hold their value. And it's not a linear thing. My Rx7 slowly lowered in value, then slowly started gaining its value back.

$12k is roughly what they were going for at the time I sold it. Now I could sell it for double or triple that.

There's really no way to predict these things.

 

[PikkaGTR]

If the 2JZ was the main reason for the MKIVs popularity, why aren't all these other shitboxes up in lights? I'm just throwing it out there, but I think just maybe it has something to do with them not being in a lame movie franchise.

Winner winner chicken dinner
There is a quote to never meet your heroes , because you'd be disappointed
A stock mk4 supra is a dog to drive, and with minimal money into mods is still a dog to drive
The amount of money to make it into a monster, which the 2J is capable of is a LOT more than people assume
The mk4 supra, the 86 and the Miata are 3 of the most over hyped cars ever, and when people actual go and drive one they'd realize sure it's a fun car to drive, but nowhere near the pedestal they have been put on.

 

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[GMsuperfan]

Honestly, it depends on what your priorities are. You can't have it all, much like i want a new ZR-1 but know based upon what my income is and what my retirement goals are, i'm not going to buy it. The more money you put down on a property, generally the better it will be for you. Avoiding paying PMI alone would be worth considering selling the Supra but again, not sure of your situation. Cars are typically depreciating assets overall, there are exceptions but these are generally within the highly collectible domains that us regular guys can't touch. Even the ones that do appreciate, there are carrying costs, maintenance, taxes, etc. etc. Just because you own them doesn't mean they are free to own over their lifetime. You will likely get a lot better return on a real estate transaction over a lot of other things you'll invest in life. Just my 2 cents.

 

[razorlab]

Winner winner chicken dinner
There is a quote to never meet your heroes , because you'd be disappointed
A stock mk4 supra is a dog to drive, and with minimal money into mods is still a dog to drive
The amount of money to make it into a monster, which the 2J is capable of is a LOT more than people assume
The mk4 supra, the 86 and the Miata are 3 of the most over hyped cars ever, and when people actual go and drive one they'd realize sure it's a fun car to drive, but nowhere near the pedestal they have been put on.

So much this. Everyone thinks the mk4 comes with 900 hp stock. The engineering in the car was good and ahead of its time for sure but that doesn’t mean that made it a legend, just look at the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4, wayyyyy ahead of its time engineering wise and most people could care less about them. Although you can blame the Evo’s existence for that.

Also, yes, the Miata is the most over hyped car in existence. Absolute turds.

 

[R1Outcast]

...the Miata is the most over hyped car in existence. Absolute turds.

I think you guys are misunderstanding why people like the Miata. It's not because it's a blazing fast quarter-mile slayer. People like the Miata because it's one of the last (mostly) pure sports cars. It's a small, light-weight, two-door coupe/convertible. There really aren't many of those still being made in this age of giant SUV's and pickups.

The Miata isn't my cup-of-tea, but I respect it for what it is.

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