2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

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The S55 engine is annoying. It's a literal ear rape experience. Especially the M4 GTS. I will say that the S58 still does has that rasp from the S55 but is still much better than it.


Agree. Many M4's roaming around where I'm from, especially around Dharmawangsa, SCBD and Sudirman to HI (if u know, u know), they sound just eugh. It is the ultimate fuckboy machine here, so unattractive. You'd be walking down at night, you think some ricer's passing by until the gear changes and you notice the excessive farts. Oh boy, that's one of those. I get the impression of the worst singer you know given the shittiest loud audio and well.. the ear rape begins.
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It's so disappointing given how bmw I6 used to sound, like the S52 and M88. Best sounding I6s, period.
Ah man, you hit me right in the feels with this post. As a proud previous owner of an E28 M5 with an S38, I can confirm the M88/S38 engines are by far some of the best sounding mass production engines BMW has ever built.
 

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The S54 is possibly the best sounding I6, period.
Oh gosh...dont kill me but i HATE how this sounds, that metallic raspiness...omg. Ye its characteristic but a no no for me. I was about to buy m3 e46 and 3/4 my google searches were: "how to remove exhaust rasp" :p
 

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The S54 is possibly the best sounding I6, period.
Especially in CSL trim. Too bad that never came to the states. But the E46 M3 is hit or miss for most, some canā€™t stand the rasp and some love it. I loved mine with the eisenmann exhaust, sounded more deeper. I also owned an e60 M5 with full exhaust and that thing sounded like an American muscle car! Loved it. lol, I really miss bmw building cars like those in the past, sadly, we will never see that again.

That being said the 4.0 flat six Porsche engine sounds insane! Imo, one of the best sounding engines ever.
 

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Oh gosh...dont kill me but i HATE how this sounds, that metallic raspiness...omg. Ye its characteristic but a no no for me. I was about to buy m3 e46 and 3/4 my google searches were: "how to remove exhaust rasp" :p
Omg thought am the only one lol. Idk man, other than M88, S70/2, S85, S65 and B58 and S52 it is just a no-no.
 

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I love the metallic rasp.

One of my biggest challenges in getting an A90 is meaning I have to sell my C63... the 6.2 makes me giggle every single cold start <3 (especially de-catted)
 

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Especially in CSL trim. Too bad that never came to the states. But the E46 M3 is hit or miss for most, some canā€™t stand the rasp and some love it. I loved mine with the eisenmann exhaust, sounded more deeper. I also owned an e60 M5 with full exhaust and that thing sounded like an American muscle car! Loved it. lol, I really miss bmw building cars like those in the past, sadly, we will never see that again.

That being said the 4.0 flat six Porsche engine sounds insane! Imo, one of the best sounding engines ever.
The only thing that killed the CSL for me was the SMG gearbox. If they offered a manual like the regular E46 M3, man it would've one of the all time greatest drivers cars ever. Also I have never heard anyone describe a E60 M5 sounding like an american muscle car lol. That's a first. A friend of mine used to have one with Evolve headers and RPI GT exhaust and it definitely didn't sound like a muscle car. More like a screaming F1 car for the road banshee. It made Ferrari owners turn their heads that's for sure and Mustang/Camaro/Challenger guys sh!t their pants when it hit it's 8250rpm redline and all 10 cylinders showing them the taillights lol.

And yeah the 4.0 Porsche engine sounds amazing. I am actually going to go all out on my GT4 with a 4.0l kit and X51 power kit when the warranty expires. But future Supra ownership might delay that lol.
 
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The only thing that killed the CSL for me was the SMG gearbox. If they offered a manual like the regular E46 M3, man it would've one of the all time greatest drivers cars ever. Also I have never heard anyone describe a E60 M5 sounding like an american muscle car lol. That's a first. A friend of mine used to have one with Evolve headers and RPI GT exhaust and it definitely didn't sound like a muscle car. More like a screaming F1 car for the road banshee. It made Ferrari owners turn their heads that's for sure.

And yeah the 4.0 Porsche engine sounds amazing. I am actually going to go all out on my GT4 with a 4.0l kit and X51 power kit when the warranty expires. But future Supra ownership might delay that lol.
Lol, yes, you are correct on that matter. I should have been more specific as in start up and idle, the car was sooo loud. But revving it and flooring it it sounded like a banshee out of hell!!
 

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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27456854/2020-toyota-supra-testing-acceleration-zero-to-60/

  • The 2020 Toyota Supra achieved a 3.8-second zero-to-60-mph time in Car and Driver testing.
  • The fifth-gen Supra also impressed with a 12.3-second quarter-mile time at 113 mph.
  • The trimmer dimensions and lack of a rear seat cut weight by 108 pounds compared with the mid-1990s, fourth-generation Supra.
We're now able to quantify our recent positive tingles from our first time behind the wheel of a production 2020 Toyota Supra. We drove one back to our office from Toyota's launch event at Summit Point Motorsports Park in West Virginia and have now had the chance to run our full gamut of performance tests on it.

In short, the fifth-generation Supra is quickā€”even quicker than anticipated, hauling to 60 mph in just 3.8 seconds and steamrolling through the quarter-mile in 12.3 seconds at 113 mph. Our best runs involved a light dollop of brake torquing to get engine revs off idle and then carefully applying the gas pedal to avoid excessive wheelspin. The launch-control program, which was inconsistent in its engagement, was considerably slower.

These acceleration times stack up favorably against some bigger, pricier guns, nearly hanging with a Chevy Corvette or a Porsche Cayman GTS through the quarter-mile and slightly outaccelerating the BMW M2 Competition and the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350. This doesn't come as much of a surprise, given that it is based on BMW componentry, but the revived Supra follows in the BMW tradition of delivering far better performance than its claimed power, and thus power-to-weight ratio, would suggest. For example, at 10.1 pounds per horsepower, the Supra outaccelerates the Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE, which has 120 more horsepower, each of which is only taxed with 8.2 pounds. It's less a question of whether or not the Supra's 335-hp inline-six is underrated, and more about how much. Unfortunately, we have yet to test a BMW Z4 M40i to see how close the Supra is to the more powerful, "382-hp" six-cylinder Z4.

Although the horsepower rating is only 15 hp higher, the new Supra is quite a bit quicker than the revered Mark IV Supra Turbo from the mid-1990s, andā€”shockingly in today's world of almost always larger and heavierā€”108 pounds lighter, aided by its trimmer dimensions and lack of a rear seat. Our Renaissance Red test car weighed 3372 pounds, which is, impressively, a bit lighter than Toyota's claimed curb weight despite the fact that ours was a loaded Premium model, which pushed the as-tested price to $56,115.

However, Toyota hasn't divulged the coefficient of drag figure, and we'd guess by the way the Supra's high-speed acceleration tapers off that it isn't class-leading (all the fake vents probably don't help, but they would hurt more if they were real). By 100 mph, the Supra falls behind the Camaro SS 1LE and the M2, and, by 150 mph, the Supra is trailing those two by 1.5 and 3.2 seconds, respectively.

Despite wearing modestly sized Michelin Pilot Super Sport tiresā€”that, yes, are branded with BMW's star (ā˜…) designationā€”the Supra averaged a heroic 1.07 g on the skidpad. That hangs with just about anything not wearing DOT-approved track tires like the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 or Pirelli P Zero Corsas, and slightly better than the current top-dog Cayman GTS and BMW M2. Braking performance from 70 mph came in at a solidly impressive 148 feet, right in line with the front-engine competition, although the slightly front-biased Supra (51.5/48.5 percent front/rear) can't hang with the rear-biased Porsche Cayman or Boxster.

Welcome back, Supra. You've been missed.

2020 Toyota Supra performance test results 0-60-mph.jpg
How can this beautiful brute of a turbo6 engine get 24/31 mpg, yet the 86 only manages 23/30 mpg?!?! And it only has 200hp??!?!
 
 




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