Featured 2020 Supra goes 0-60 3.8s & 1/4 mi 12.3s in C&D instrumented test

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  1. rtoadyt

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    Why? When specs first dropped off, goodwood-jarama red camo era-ish, no one had clear image of what A90 hold under it's "wraps". People just knew 6cyl, fr layout, weight and dimensions of which, by the lack of faith and enthusiasm that were around back those days, 370Z seemed more the "I am what Thanos is to Iron Man" than Cayman is. Hence the constant nonsensical comparison.
     
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    Base trims arent that heavy and they both handle amazingly well. When it comes to fun to drive, both are extremely hard to beat.





     
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    True, was referring specifically the gt350. (I’m used to sports cars 3300 pounds or less, lol) For the money, and the amount of performance you are getting is hard to beat.
     
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    wow, that actually sounds really good stock :eek:
     
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    The B58 is currently the best sounding motor in the entire BMW range. Seems like Toyota tuned it and made it even better. The worst sounding car from BMW? The S55 in the M3/M4. Those things sound horrible. Even with an exhaust. The Supra will sound godlike with a full titanium Top Secret or Amuse exhaust on it. Can't wait for Japanese companies to release their products on the car.
     
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    I have a 6mt. It’s not about peak torque or all out acceleration times, it’s about torque under the curve and when it makes power.

    Again this is all relative and not a bad thing. But this high revving NA V6 doesn’t deliver power nearly the same as the N54/N55/B58.

    The great thing about this scenario is that hopefully Nissan puts the VR30 in the Z and one ups the Supra by putting a 6 speed in the car. I think this would quickly motivate Toyota to put a manual in the car as well
     
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    I'm not a fan of S in current M4 but after reading so much trash on net I thought it will sound worse in real life, wasnt that bad tho ;) On the other hand 4cyl in 718 sounds BAD for a Porsche, didnt understand that until I drove N/A flat6, those things siiiiiiing!
    Also, the B58 in A90 will sound even better irl than this clip so... excited :] Aftermarket for this car will be omegabig, even bigger than for 86 :D
     
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    The S58 is only out in the X3 M and the X4 M. The engine that's currently in the M3 and M4 is the S55.
     
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    Oh yes. I fixed it. Thanks for the heads up. S55 sounds like crap. I think even the S58 sounds pretty muted TBH. Those twin turbo's really kill the sound. The N54 with twin turbos sound a lot better. Along with the single turbo N55 and B58.
     
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    Lol you are telling me. I drive a GT4 and have heard all the 718 S's and GTS's and they all sound like crap. They are quick though thanks to that turbo but no one buys a Porsche just to have it sound like a Subaru.

    And I've heard plenty of M3/M4's. In car meets, on the road, pulling away from parking lots, at the BMW dealership when I take my 1'er for service...both stock and with exhausts. They sound so bad compared to the standard N55's and B58's. And sound horrible when you compare it to the E92 V8. I heard a 440i with the M performance exhaust and my god did it sound godlike. Put's the M4 to shame. That's a B58 btw in the 440i.
     
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    It's so disappointing given how bmw I6 used to sound, like the S52 and M88. Best sounding I6s, period.
     
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    The S55 engine is annoying. It's a literal ear rape experience. Especially the M4 GTS. I will say that the S58 still does has that rasp from the S55 but is still much better than it.

    Also speaking of Porsches, apparently they're going to switch back to a flat-six engine for the Cayman and Boxster. Thank god. The 4-cylinder would consume MORE fuel than the six and it's intention was to actually have a better fuel economy. And it sounds like shit. It works in a Subaru, but not in a Porsche.
     
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    I heard they are only doing that for the 718 Touring and GTS models along with the 718 Boxster Spyder and Cayman GT4 models. Not the base or S models. Porsche really took a step backwards introducing the 4 cyl. to those cars. Hell, they took a step down by dropping the NA flat 6 pretty much entirely with the new 911 models. It makes having the appeal of owning a 911 Turbo less special when a base Carrera comes with turbo's. Sure they are faster and more efficient but they lack the soul. I would be surprised if they manage to squeeze in another generation of NA GT cars after the current ones. My guess is the 992 GT models and 718 GT4/Boxster Spyder would be the last time they use NA engines.
     
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    The S54 as well. That was an eargasm for sure. Some didn't like it because it sounded too raspy but that gave it character IMO. Also N54, N55, and B58 sound great for being a turbo car.
     
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    100%.

    The S54 is possibly the best sounding I6, period.
     

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