Question for those with Pure800 Turbo setups:

[razorlab]

Not sure if it's just luck or others misfortune, but I haven't broken axles on the street and I'm making a good amount more than that.

Not to curse myself but I beat the living hell out of my Supra on the track with 600whp and I haven't had axles issues. Perhaps that happens more in lower gears with wheel hop and stuff, which doesn't happen on track, but I have def had the rear in the air off curbing and slammed back down and gain traction, which def shocks the rear diff/axles.

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[razorlab]

So what you're saying is, with what I have already all I'd need is the pure800 to push 550whp?

Yes. You can also just get an HPFP and flex kit for when you get used to the power on 93.

Here is a Supra I just tuned at a mile high, this would probably be around 590-600whp at sea level.

100% OEM fuel system with E35, intake, pure800, catted DP.

 

[Mk5phtm]

Yes. You can also just get an HPFP and flex kit for when you get used to the power on 93.

Here is a Supra I just tuned at a mile high, this would probably be around 590-600whp at sea level.

100% OEM fuel system with E35, intake, pure800, catted DP.

How reliable would you say this setup is?

 

[razorlab]

How reliable would you say this setup is?

As reliable as you make it. If you beat on your car every single day you have more chances to break something.

I ran my Supra at approx 600whp for 20 events last season with no issues.

That car I showed the dyno above is making 550whp uncorrected but a reminder it is at mile high altitude. Which is why I stated it would probably make around 590-600whp at sea level.

 

[licklobster]

At a given power level, the bigger turbo is going to be easier on the engine then the stock turbo - just because temperatures will be much, much lower. (Granted a stock turbo cant get to 600)

Keep up with your maintenance.

 

[jmikes]

Not to curse myself but I beat the living hell out of my Supra on the track with 600whp and I haven't had axles issues. Perhaps that happens more in lower gears with wheel hop and stuff, which doesn't happen on track, but I have def had the rear in the air off curbing and slammed back down and gain traction, which def shocks the rear diff/axles.

From what I've heard the axle snapping issues comes from immediately hooking on hard launches, primarily with drag racing and/or when running radials.

I can't imagine having axle issues while already up to speed if you aren't making crazy power. Maybe if you're going absolutely crazy with burnouts/drifting/donuts there's a chance?

 

[JAWTB]

At a given power level, the bigger turbo is going to be easier on the engine then the stock turbo - just because temperatures will be much, much lower. (Granted a stock turbo cant get to 600)

Keep up with your maintenance.

pure900 over pure800 I'm assuming what you're talking about?

 

[JAWTB]

Yes, turn down the torque to avoid an upgraded trans. This however adds on to the idea if you even need to upgrade the turbo if you don’t want to upgrade the trans.

I was debating an 800 or 900 myself. (Still am). For me, main components/concerns is that the 900 is a well made turbo, but isn’t functional with all CAI. 800 isn’t as well made, but is functional with most CAI.

Also, no t51r on the 800.

Thats funny you mention that, I was just googling around if t51r worked with the pure800.
Do you happen to know if armaspeed intake works with pure900?

 

[JAWTB]

Yes. You can also just get an HPFP and flex kit for when you get used to the power on 93.

Here is a Supra I just tuned at a mile high, this would probably be around 590-600whp at sea level.

100% OEM fuel system with E35, intake, pure800, catted DP.

You seem very knowledgeable. I have another question for you. So you had me sold on just going pure800 but then I did some googling around and found out that the t51r mod isnt available on the pure800. So now my question is, would with my mods (dp, cai, exhaust and tune) would the pure900 spool that much slower than the pure800 on pump gas?

Also, I should clarify that id mostly just be doing some highway pulls for fun, (in mexico of course) no digs or anything like that. And that E isn't permanently off the table, I'm in the military and move every 4 years so wherever I go in 2029 could have E available. Would the pure900 be more reliable/kinder to the engine too?

 

[razorlab]

You seem very knowledgeable. I have another question for you. So you had me sold on just going pure800 but then I did some googling around and found out that the t51r mod isnt available on the pure800. So now my question is, would with my mods (dp, cai, exhaust and tune) would the pure900 spool that much slower than the pure800 on pump gas?

Also, I should clarify that id mostly just be doing some highway pulls for fun, (in mexico of course) no digs or anything like that. And that E isn't permanently off the table, I'm in the military and move every 4 years so wherever I go in 2029 could have E available. Would the pure900 be more reliable/kinder to the engine too?

I don't have much experience with the 900 since it's so new but I imagine there will be a little more lag. I believe the 900 is basically a 850 with larger turbine and a better cast higher flowing compressor housing but I would call Pure and ask, they are very helpful.

The 850 is def a little laggier than a 800.

For street use I think the Pure800 is the best choice to be honest, especially if running pump gas. I would normally say that choosing a turbo on which has T51r availability is a horrible way to choose a turbo but different strokes for different folks.

 

[JAWTB]

I don't have much experience with the 900 since it's so new but I imagine there will be a little more lag. I believe the 900 is basically a 850 with larger turbine and a better cast higher flowing compressor housing but I would call Pure and ask, they are very helpful.

The 850 is def a little laggier than a 800.

For street use I think the Pure800 is the best choice to be honest, especially if running pump gas. I would normally say that choosing a turbo on which has T51r availability is a horrible way to choose a turbo but different strokes for different folks.

Its 100% a horrible way to determine what turbo I want. I'm also not trying to be the fastest guy around, just looking for smiles per gallon. I'm still leaning towards the pure800 as I may have to buy a different intake if I wanted to go pure900, which I'm not too thrilled about.

 

[tenkyouken]

Zero need for PI (port injection) and LPFP if you plan on running just pump gas. Save your money.

550 is easy on 93. No need for trans build at that level either.

When is it time to build the trans?

Thats funny you mention that, I was just googling around if t51r worked with the pure800.
Do you happen to know if armaspeed intake works with pure900?

The only intake that works with the 900 is the Burger Intake. And it’s so ugly lol. I’m probably going 800 even if I can’t get the t51r.

 

[DVMKV]

I moved from a first gen p800 to a daw6769 which is bigger than the p900. It's honestly not THAT laggy and your tuner will be able to assist with your initial boost curve. I don't launch from lights, just rolling pulls, and boost still hits really quick. Even if you decided on the p900, you'll be covered for now, later, 93, or a full build. You won't be disappointed by either option.

 

[ntfrendlyGR]

I second the DAW 6769. Just broke in clutch and not tuned on it yet but so far feels great. Stock turbo I was 16psi at 3500rpm. With DAW I’m at 14-15, what I’m requesting currently, at 3500rpm. I think it feels 110% better down low over stock. Once tuned I’ll over lay dyno with stock

 

[maniac]

I don't have much experience with the 900 since it's so new but I imagine there will be a little more lag. I believe the 900 is basically a 850 with larger turbine and a better cast higher flowing compressor housing but I would call Pure and ask, they are very helpful.

The 850 is def a little laggier than a 800.

For street use I think the Pure800 is the best choice to be honest, especially if running pump gas. I would normally say that choosing a turbo on which has T51r availability is a horrible way to choose a turbo but different strokes for different folks.

I am looking at running a hybrid turbo but on pump fuel. . This is a little guess work but running approx 20 psi, at what rpm would the Pure 850 hit full boost with a decat exhaust? I am ok to introduce a bit of lag but the last hybrid I had on a previous car ( from TTE) was exceptionally laggy and felt like a group B car to make any meaningful power. Fun, but slow at hillclimbs.

I am currently finding on track that the early spool of this 23 manual tuned supra is too harsh so a little more lag, less boost ( running 23psi now) would help immensely with heat and with a hp gain without that initial "I want to kill you tail holiday"

HP goal is approx 320-350 wheel kws ( currently at 295 wheel kws) but not all top end.

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